🇺🇦🇬🇧 Eurovision Song Contest 2023 in Liverpool, United Kingdom 🇬🇧🇺🇦

[Juanlittlem 41,766]

1 minute ago, GC1234 said:

Omg I know!! The fact it was notably lower and she still failed to reach it lol. Plus you could barely hear her in parts. Such a shame as the staging and projections were great. Back to the bottom we go, and deservedly so 

Yeah I do agree the visuals were nice but she just couldnt deliver live. I found it funny she made the excuse "she was sick" at some preparties and then still sounded bad, like girl, that cold lasted months now  It's okay, you got 2nd again if we turn the scoreboard upside down! Looks like Spain and UK are connected 'cause if you do good we do good and if you flop we flop

[Levine 22,636]

1 minute ago, Admin said:

People don’t know the rules. Most people watch the show casually and when you spend an hour showing Loreen because 5 people in a jury voted for her and then spend 10 seconds announcing the actual points from millions of voters, it’s misleading.

Did you call these people and ask if they knew the rules? For whom you are talking about in this moment? Italian hosts yesterday said SEVERAL TIMES that those were the jury votes and, again, even the official hosts. They literally said "and now the votes from the public".

As the other user said to you, theyr tried different methods and this is the most loved and the one who gives you more suspance.

Americans need to stick with their rigged shows where people buy the awards

[GC1234 620]

Just now, Juanlittlem said:

Yeah I do agree the visuals were nice but she just couldnt deliver live. I found it funny she made the excuse "she was sick" at some preparties and then still sounded bad, like girl, that cold lasted months now  It's okay, you got 2nd again if we turn the scoreboard upside down! Looks like Spain and UK are connected 'cause if you do good we do good and if you flop we flop

The months long cold I am crying haha, the classic go to lol!! I’ll take second again with the upside down scoreboard pmsl  Really enjoyed Spain, had such a niche Eurovision sound, but so unique and one of the standouts!! 
 

So pleased for Loreen too, if anyone was gonnna be the first female to win Eurovision twice it just had to be her!!!

[Juanlittlem 41,766]

1 minute ago, GC1234 said:

So pleased for Loreen too, if anyone was gonnna be the first female to win Eurovision twice it just had to be her!!!

Yup, she's an icon and she deserved it. I was excited about Finland as well so Im glad he got 2nd place.

[Juanlittlem 41,766]

Also can we talk about how Armenia was so underrated? Her placing 14th was a robbery! 

[dberrin 866]

No one liked La Zara here ? The song was really good. Feels like it had some future nostalgia’s era vibe sometimes.

anyway France has not won for so long. I don’t understand how can people prefer a song like chachacha to this 

[Admin 24,441]

13 minutes ago, Levine said:

Did you call these people and ask if they knew the rules? For whom you are talking about in this moment? Italian hosts yesterday said SEVERAL TIMES that those were the jury votes and, again, even the official hosts. They literally said "and now the votes from the public".

I meant that 99.99% of the people are not going to go to the Eurovision website after the show and see that not a single country gave Sweden 12 points. You can explain the rules a million times, but when you spend an hour showing Loreen and then 10 seconds showing what actually happened with the televote, it creates a false impression and is misleading.

What most people are going to remember from the voting is 15 countries giving her 12 points, when in reality it was just 5 people in a jury.

13 minutes ago, Levine said:

As the other user said to you, theyr tried different methods and this is the most loved and the one who gives you more suspance.

Nobody is arguing that it is a system that “gives the most suspense” lol. Of course it does. Doesn’t mean that it’s fair to the artists.

13 minutes ago, Levine said:

Americans need to stick with their rigged shows where people buy the awards

What Americans are you talking about lol

[Debithius 5,498]

1 hour ago, Admin said:

It’s so stupid that a song that didn’t get 12 points from a single country still won

How? She got a **** ton of 10s which added up to the second most televotes and the jury liked her enough to give her the win? How is that stupid? The Netherlands won neither the jury or the televote when they won and people somehow b!tch about Sweden. Like, okey?

[alsemanche 92,053]

Austria robbed

[Juanlittlem 41,766]

4 minutes ago, Debithius said:

How? She got a **** ton of 10s which added up to the second most televotes and the jury liked her enough to give her the win? How is that stupid? The Netherlands won neither the jury or the televote when they won and people somehow b!tch about Sweden. Like, okey?

Yup, like this aint the first time someone wins without winning one or even the two votings like you said with Arcade on 2019!

[Juanlittlem 41,766]

Huge TV numbers for Eurovision in Spain too.

4.8M audience and 39,7% share. Voting got 5.1M and the highest point was 5.8M with 50,9% share.

[Juanlittlem 41,766]

4 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

Austria robbed

Opening the show lowered their chances

[Levine 22,636]

7 minutes ago, Debithius said:

How? She got a **** ton of 10s which added up to the second most televotes and the jury liked her enough to give her the win? How is that stupid? The Netherlands won neither the jury or the televote when they won and people somehow b!tch about Sweden. Like, okey?

This.

And the narrative "people don't know" it's totally wrong, it's not true. 

[alsemanche 92,053]

1 minute ago, Juanlittlem said:

Opening the show lowered their chances

Yeah sadly. I'm still a little surprised that they ranked so low tbh, their song was my favorite. 

[Juanlittlem 41,766]

Just now, alsemanche said:

Yeah sadly. I'm still a little surprised that they ranked so low tbh, their song was my favorite. 

I wasnt expecting a top 5, but a top 10 would've been a good placement!