Katy has emotional meltdown on Idol

[holy scheisse 22,482]

59 minutes ago, blzr said:

This kind of strong emotion can’t be controlled. So anyone here saying she should’ve been more measured in her response - think of times when you’ve experienced an emotion so strong that you couldn’t contain it and it burst. I’m sure at that moment she didn’t think about how this would’ve been perceived, who she would alienate, etc. She was just spontaneously expressing her feelings. And yes, it was intense indeed - imagine the type of emotion she must have been holding down for so long.

Ehhh no offense but I’m not sure I agree. that may be true for children. I think adults ought to work on regulating their emotions. This scene, at least how it looks on tv, comes across as Katy being more emotional and out of control than the actual victim as he tells his trauma story and so… idk her sentiment is absolutely on the right side of things but for me— anything being shown on tv ought to be considered through a media analysis Lens where you consider the persona Katy is trying to portray or the personal agenda/politics of the network that the show is on. Idk lol I had to turn this off bc it was cringe and not because of the subject matter but how uncomfortable her disproportionate discomfort felt as she hijacked the attention from this guy. 

[COOOK 76,406]

Posting the video opens much needed conversations about gun control so props to you for that. But posting it with "#americanidol" you're only making it about yourself. 50/50 for me... or 40/60

[27monster27 14,684]

7 hours ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

There are always complaints about "virtue signaling" any time anyone speaks up about problems like this, but if everyone who felt like Katy (especially those who have the platform she does) talked about it like this, change would come faster and easier. Whether or not she's giving "sensationalism" or "making it about her", I commend her for it. 

 

6 hours ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

It really doesn’t feel like she did that… all she said was she’s scared too and then spent the most of time trashing America and saying it shouldn’t be like this. The only person shifting attention to Katy is OP?

 

5 hours ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

I didn't accuse you of virtue signaling and I didn't say a pop star crying and screaming on TV would do anything; I said that people accusing ✨️her✨️ of virtue signaling are going to say that whether or not her reaction is genuine and that ✨️many people✨️ crying and screaming on TV frequently would help change come easier. 

People are mad because she's a woman. When Madonna talked about politics on American Life everyone accused her of making it all about herself, and Katy even went through the same thing on Witness. Meanwhile Kanye West can say screwed up things because he's a man, and men can say far worse and get away with way less. Don't sugar coat this, this is misogyny.

[Chlorine 47,976]

It’s like some of you don’t know how emotions work? Katy is hearing it for the first time and processing it in real time on live TV. Hence her reaction. The survivor has gone through the grieving process and is able to recount the story without breaking down. 

[Economy 51,427]

8 hours ago, Bebe said:

I know I will get a lot of negative responses to this but I hate this kind of trauma p*rn

I hate that this kids trauma is being used to entertain the public and make Katy and her fellow judges look good. 

This isn't helpful, this is just catering to the egos of the judges and public to make them feel like good people for feeling bad at this tragedy.

Katy Perry, I'm sure, is an absolutely gorgeous person on the inside. I'm sure she is very empathetic and wants to do the right thing - but it's not brave to be upset over this. It doesn't make her a better person. 

There is no call to action after this clip, hopefully there is in the actual show. This is just Katy yelling that "This country has failed us!" and that he shouldn't have had to lose eight friends.

It's simply American Idol exploiting this young man's traumatic experience for shock value, to trigger an emotional response with the audience and to humanise their judges and make them come across as more favourable to their audience.

This isn't an attack on the judges, although I don't like that their emotional response became the central focus, it's an indictment of the producers more than anything.

To some extent I agree... But her reaction on Katie's part seemed very genuine. It's hard to act like that on the spot. I believe she was genuinely upset so, I'm not gonna criticize the usual artificial moral superiority complex of the celebrity world for image sakes. I think she really meant what she said

 

As a more broad general rule tho, I agree. It's a lot of talk among high profile ppl

[Sepsami 19,687]

9 hours ago, Bebe said:

I know I will get a lot of negative responses to this but I hate this kind of trauma p*rn

I hate that this kids trauma is being used to entertain the public and make Katy and her fellow judges look good. 

This isn't helpful, this is just catering to the egos of the judges and public to make them feel like good people for feeling bad at this tragedy.

Katy Perry, I'm sure, is an absolutely gorgeous person on the inside. I'm sure she is very empathetic and wants to do the right thing - but it's not brave to be upset over this. It doesn't make her a better person. 

There is no call to action after this clip, hopefully there is in the actual show. This is just Katy yelling that "This country has failed us!" and that he shouldn't have had to lose eight friends.

It's simply American Idol exploiting this young man's traumatic experience for shock value, to trigger an emotional response with the audience and to humanise their judges and make them come across as more favourable to their audience.

This isn't an attack on the judges, although I don't like that their emotional response became the central focus, it's an indictment of the producers more than anything.

So they should just completely skip over this or what?

[lilboyblue 5,788]

You got a popular celebrity advocating against gun violence and y'all are more focused on whether she's being genuine or not, and how she's having a "meltdown"? Unbelievable.

[elijahfan 26,849]

3 hours ago, monstertoronto said:

It’s not a virtue to “keep it together”. I really dislike people saying it’s better to keep your emotions bottled up.  Start normalizing being able to express your emotions.  

There's a thing called reading a room, that's all I'll add to this conversation.

[codymonster 8,702]

Here’s the thing: Honestly, when I first saw the video, my gut reaction was that she seemed like she was being a bit melodramatic. However, EVEN if she was, is it hurting anyone? No. If anything, it’s promoting the idea that gun control is more than necessary and that this young man’s life was rocked because of something preventable.

 

Whether you think she’s putting on a show, virtue signaling, looking for attention, etc, you don’t actually know. And even if she was, no harm is being done.

 

It’s so bonkers to me how people can’t control their negative thoughts. Like I said, my gut reaction was that she was being melodramatic. But it’s a GUT reaction for a reason; a reflex. Taking an extra minute to think about it, you can think of how maybe this was a raw reaction (I’ve never seen Katy Perry’s break down before). Or that pointing out she is maybe faking it completely distracts from the purpose of the whole segment. To bring awareness about school gun violence in America.

 

Like actually think for a second: Some of you are watching a woman cry after hearing someone share their story about school shootings, and you are arguing about whether she was being sincere??? That’s wild. It is possible to think something, realize it’s rude or unecessary, and just keep it to yourself.

[tylertremallose 1,394]

I live about 10 min from Santa Fe HS and I remember being so worried about my mom cuz she was a teacher at a school about 15 min from Santa Fe HS 

It’s like when you see it on the news it’s one thing but when it actually happens near you, it’s a whole different thing. 
 

It’s such a tragic experience for everyone involved. 

[Stephen 30,432]

She's not a lawyer, a doctor etc. she's a TV PERSONALITY. She doesn't need to stay composed. It's actually asinine she's being criticized over this. People are so stupid, man. You can see the fear in her eyes. This is real life. You can literally be shot and killed at any moment in America for no reason it's a ****ing disgrace.

Not even a fan of Katy and this makes me like her more.

[Monstermilo 5,200]

our country has failed us cuz half of us dont think america has a gun issue, we have mass shootings all the time and we cry but half our govt wont do **** about it 

also katy has been wishy washy when it comes to her politics and recently she said moving to kentucky has opened her eyes, yet the ppl in that state are the ones against gun control.......... 

like come on pick a side katy. when you ride the fence for too long, thats when **** doesnt get done, thats the **** that prevents actual gun reform from happening

[elijahfan 26,849]

2 hours ago, lilboyblue said:

You got a popular celebrity advocating against gun violence and y'all are more focused on whether she's being genuine or not, and how she's having a "meltdown"? Unbelievable.

I'm not questioning whether her reaction was genuine or entirely fabricated, I'm criticizing the way she expressed this reaction in the face of a victim. She's such a product of her own country's entertainment culture that she couldn't help but making it a "television moment" that shifted the attention towards her, and you're also such a product of that same culture that you can't even begin to see what's wrong with it. She knows she's being filmed, she knows what she's doing.

I think this is too serious a subject matter to be treated with sensationalism, emojis and #AmericanIdol. Then again, this might be a cultural thing, but this made me uncomfortable. I'll agree to disagree and leave everyone feel the way they want to feel as I believe both sentiments are valid, but let's not start calling each other stupid or misogynists like some members are starting to do, or this might derail pretty quickly.

[Bebe 17,137]

3 hours ago, Sepsami said:

So they should just completely skip over this or what?

The producers chose him to participate in this reality T.V show because of his story and prompted him to talk about it. They chose him specifically so they could use his trauma as entertainment.

During the audition process (which occurs long before the televised auditions) contestants are made to fill in forms, do questionaires and asked to talk about difficulties they have overcome and the sort. They then select people who  have a good narrative for T.V and can hold a note.

They then complete a bunch of interviews and shoot some footage at the contestants homes talking about their story which they can show before or after their audition.

A natural response to the question "Why are you at American Idol?" is not "I went through a school shooting in 2018". It was totally irrelevant to the question, but the producers had told him to bring it up. If he had just stuck with his original answer of "it's where a lot of singers I like got their start" the producers would have been in the ear pieces of the judges like "ask him why he chose that emotional song/what it means to him!".

This show is so manufactured that I'm sure the producers even asked him to sing a song that reflects how he felt about what he had gone through.

The producers chose not to handle his trauma in a way that made him the central focus - they made the judges the central focus.

The producers did not include any sort of call to action after this scene, they simply utilised his trauma as entertainment.

It's very typical in these sort of signing competitions.

The more ethical way of handling this young man's story would have started at the audition process, before he was even in front of camera. A more ethical version of the show wouldn't ask such probing questions of their contestants and would allow their contestants to tell any personal stories when or if they wanted to. A more ethical version of the show wouldn't mine their contestants trauma for a cheap emotional response from their audience and to humanise their judges.

This entire show runs on "find people with emotional stories who can sing so that we can exploit those stories for entertainment". 

The whole T.V auditions process isn't actually necessary, they have already picked out good singers, it's simply to set up emotional narratives that mine people's personal trauma for easy emotional reactions. 

[Bebe 17,137]

5 hours ago, Economy said:

To some extent I agree... But her reaction on Katie's part seemed very genuine. It's hard to act like that on the spot. I believe she was genuinely upset so, I'm not gonna criticize the usual artificial moral superiority complex of the celebrity world for image sakes. I think she really meant what she said

 

As a more broad general rule tho, I agree. It's a lot of talk among high profile ppl

I don't doubt Katy's reaction was genuine, my post was directed more at the producers. This just seemed like a particularly egregious example of trauma p*rn that these competition shows are so notorious for.