Gaga hills you will die on

[PartySick 165,271]

I'll start with a controversial take:

95% of Monsters don't know how to recognize a genre  

"It's a country album" when describing Joanne—an album full of pop, rock, Americana, funk, even freaking folk and doo-wop.

"It's a jazz album" when making the decision to ignore the rock, blues, soul, punk, and theater aspects of Harlequin.

Actually, describing ANY album with a single genre when they all span half a dozen different genres themselves (except for Chromatica which is nearly the same song 13 times).

"I want dark pop music like *insert a song from before 2011 with glittering synths but because it's in a minor key that makes it dark and brooding or something*"

Did I make this thread just to randomly complain about this? Of course not!

I also wanna see y'all fight over some unique takes

[Taumaturg0 874]

6 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I'll start with a controversial take:

95% of Monsters don't know how to recognize a genre  

"It's a country album" when describing Joanne—an album full of pop, rock, Americana, funk, even freaking folk and doo-wop.

"It's a jazz album" when making the decision to ignore the rock, blues, soul, punk, and theater aspects of Harlequin.

Actually, describing ANY album with a single genre when they all span half a dozen different genres themselves (except for Chromatica which is nearly the same song 13 times).

"I want dark pop music like *insert a song from before 2011 with glittering synths but because it's in a minor key that makes it dark and brooding or something*"

 

this

Also, to the people complaining about retro sounds in Mayhem... leave your stan card at the door, retro sounds have been a part of Gaga's sound since the beggining, specially TF and BTW, but there's always an element of it.

Also, cohessive eras have never been a Gaga thing up to Mayhem which is her most cohessive era visually and thematically since The Fame

Edited yesterday at 07:24 PM by Taumaturg0

[calmar 22,635]

I also don't like it when people point blank refuse to listen to, or outright dismiss, an entire genre of music off the cuff. A genre which has tens of thousands, if not more, songs in it. You're saying you wouldn't like a single aspect of any one of those tens of thousands of songs? Sure Jan.

Like I can say sure, I don't typically listen to rap music; it's not something that appeals to me. But sometimes I do like it. Not as much as other genres, but it happens. And I don't go around saying rap is horrible or not worth listening to just because I don't like it. 

[TheFrenchGuy 2,417]

Very pedantic thing to say, but I think a lot of Little Monsters appreciate the aesthetics of art more than the actual vision and statement behind it, and therefore tend to reduce Gaga’s concepts to visual cues rather than engaging with them as fully developed artistic ideas.

Ex :

the reaction to BTW's album cover

not liking the disease video because it does not have choreo

etc

Edited yesterday at 07:26 PM by TheFrenchGuy

[Bronco 15,963]

The fans who define a Gaga album/song based on how well it sells/charts aren't fans. 

It always confuses me when Gaga fans hate older music/refuse to engage with it when its literally the foundations of everything Gaga does.

[Lisbeth Salander 330]

I don’t understand the hate and apathy towards Chromatica - potentially even from Gaga herself. I think it is one of her top 3 albums musically and at the very top when it comes to visuals. 
 

I mean I get that it was released during the pandemic but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a brilliant piece of work. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Lisbeth Salander

[bim 554]

We are lucky and blessed to get Gaga’s jazz side. It’s top tier artistry and she clearly thrives in that space. It easily rivals her pop persona. I hope she does a version of Jazz & Piano for the rest of her career, it’s one of her best shows.

I’d listen to her sing Sinatra covers over half her discography at this point. Zero shade to her own music, her covers are just THAT good.

Some others are kinda touching on this, it feels like some fans don’t truly understand her artistry and are more so just fans of pop music, not Gaga as an artist. With the way some people talk about her and her music it can come across like they legit don’t actually like her. 

[NUTELLA 16,614]

20 minutes ago, PartySick said:

"I want dark pop music like *insert a song from before 2011 with glittering synths but because it's in a minor key that makes it dark and brooding or something*"

[Ladle Ghoulash 33,610]

Many fans take her brand as deathly serious and “c*nty” when the project has been hamfisted and camp from the jump and fans only selectively apply the “it’s cheesy” argument when it applies to a type of cheese they don’t like. She’s closer to Meatloaf meets a drag version of Madonna than she’ll ever be to someone like Björk (and she’s well aware of this).

Edited yesterday at 07:41 PM by Ladle Ghoulash

[Blackout19 13,467]

people who hates chromatica, don’t have a great taste

[PartySick 165,271]

12 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Many fans take her brand as deathly serious and “c*nty” when the project has been hamfisted and camp from the jump and fans only selectively apply the “it’s cheesy” argument when it applies to a type of cheese they don’t like. She’s closer to Meatloaf meets a drag version of Madonna than she’ll ever be to someone like Björk (and she’s well aware of this).

I hate when people refuse to let a bitch lean into the whimsy

[Ladle Ghoulash 33,610]

2 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I hate when people refuse to let a bitch lean into the whimsy

She’s funny! She’s silly! She’s ridiculous! Deal with it!!

Edited yesterday at 07:55 PM by Ladle Ghoulash

[PartySick 165,271]

17 minutes ago, Lisbeth Salander said:

I don’t understand the hate apathy towards Chromatica - potentially even from Gaga herself. I think it is one of her top 3 albums musically and at the very top when it comes to visuals. 
 

I mean I get that it was released during the pandemic but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a brilliant piece of work. 

It's not the era that drags it down, it's the album itself that's just not great imo.

As I nodded to in the OP, every other album, even her jazz albums with Tony, take you through a myriad of sounds while the album that's ironically named "Chromatica" is the same sound from beginning to end. The lyricism isn't up to her standard either.

When she says she wasn't in a good place creatively, I believe it, 'cause it shows  

But the concepts were cool. If she revisited the album now, worked on it with anyone other than Bloodclot, and rewrote some lyrics (and finished writing certain songs like the snippet of Alice that made the album ) it'd be good  

 

But sh*t, some people would say the same thing about my personal favorite (Joanne). None of us are an authority on this, not even Gaga  

[Onlygaga 1,592]

Not everything Gaga releases is good, and that’s okay. You don’t have to like every single song/project she puts out. You’re not “less” of a fan because you don’t like something. Criticizing her for it to the point that it becomes your entire personality, is a different story. 

Edited yesterday at 08:07 PM by Onlygaga

[NewUsername 11,631]

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