StrawberryBlond 14,217 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 "Genuinely horrible"? Jeez, that's savage. I'd rather that my album got called "awful" or "poor" (and I hate that word) but "genuinely horrible" makes a point of saying you weren't even being overdramatic by calling it horrible when we really meant mediocre or under-par or something but the "genuinely" part really hits home at how serious it is. Bit unnecessarily extra, if you ask me. What were the other ones on the list, particularly the top 10? 5 hours ago, 27monster27 said: The only reason why American Life hate is still strong is because Todd in the Shadows (one of Madonna's biggest misogynists) decided to take his hate train to that album in a 2019 video I don't understand how people take him seriously when: - He thinks Ariana Grande used a body double at the 2020 VMA's - He's said that Cher can't sing - When talking about artists that he thinks were selfish with talking about there fame all the ones he listed "coincidentally" were women (the ones he said that didn't do this were all "coincidentally" men) - Etc. I don't agree with everything Todd says but I wouldn't call him a misogynist. He likes lots of female artists and puts them on his best song year-end lists and he dated Lindsay Ellis who has always been a very outspoken feminist. He doesn't hate Madonna because she's a woman, he just doesn't like a lot of her music or her acting. A man can dislike a female artist for good reasons that aren't to do with sexism. I really don't think a video with less than 1 million views from over 3 years ago would have all that much bearing on opinions of an album across the board. I had to find the clip about Ariana you were talking about and even if it's a wild theory, it actually has a bit of weight considering he said she won an award that night but didn't go up to accept it or even do a video link acceptance which is indeed fishy. And he just doesn't like Cher's voice (a lot of people don't), I don't think he said she couldn't sing. And I don't know what specific videos you were referring to in the last bit but it probably is just a coincidence. Todd has always levelled the same criticism at all artists regardless of gender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 8,780 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Disappointed that they put Liz Phair on here and rekindle the worst of the unfair reviews from that time period who were just so “above” teen pop and disappointed in her trying new things they couldn’t judge the album on its own merits. I read articles since then that reflected on this album since, it’s too bad Rolling Stone doesn’t seem to have evolved too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyEnigma 1,063 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 okay i know Kanye is extremely problematic but YE BEING NUMBER ONE?!?!?! That album is a masterpiece like ITAKY, Ghost Town, Violent Crimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBaetens 6,891 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Aussie said: Hadn’t Rolling Stone always give high marks to Madonna albums? I thought American Life had still received a decent score. Definitely not a horrible album, none of her albums are Well, if I had to pick a Madonna album for this list it would be MDNA. when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto 13,302 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Normally I would shame Rolling Stone for their lack of diversity and boomer choices, but since it's a worst list I'm gonna let it slide Free my mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 95,089 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 When did Rolling Stone stop being a respected magazine and become a worse version of WatchMojo? If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 19,935 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 They forgot Queen - Hot Space. From the original band at least, that's the worst. More recently, Everything niw by Arcade Fire, I love them but what was this... You popped my heart seams, all my bubble dreams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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