Rolling Stone’s 200 Greatest Singers of All Time

[Ivy 11,750]

This list is a mess?

And the full won't load properly on my phone 

[phantasmas 10,097]

finally a top 10 from them that i can agree with 

[The Fame Monster 3,965]

Karen Carpenter at #123!?

In the words of Sir Elton John, Karen has one of the greatest voices of our lifetime. She definitely deserves a better spot (as do many others).

But yeah, this list doesn't mean anything, it's just a random opinions.

 

[AkariGaga 1,102]

BTS JunKook is at 198😂😂 but no Celine.

[Ziggy 10,825]

On 1/1/2023 at 8:28 PM, Reality said:

I'm not going to defend the entirety of that list because I also don't think it's that good, but again, it's more than just vocals. That is a part of their criteria, but it's not the only thing they're ranking these singers based on. Taylor's impact and songwriting is probably why she is put highly on that list (relative to other artists). I don't doubt anyone would argue that she's a better vocalist than Celine f*cking Dion  

Sure but I’m saying that the list is about vocal performance (which is more than ability; performance is about the stylistic and artistic choices one makes as well) not necessarily talent exclusively. But even on that metric, which defends inclusions of the likes of Springsteen and Bob Dylan, tbh Taylor shouldn’t be there when someone like Shania Twain isn’t. Taylor is a star for her songwriting but I think it’s a little disingenuous to say she’s ever given a particularly standout knockout vocal performance compared to fellow country-pop pioneers like Shania. That’s just my two cents. The list is about best *singers* which encompasses more about the performance aspect and what they’re able to do and evoke with their voice outside of pure technical talent. It doesn’t (or at least shouldn’t) factor in songwriting at all. And if it does, then ****, Bjork needs to be MUCH higher for the sheer scale of complexity and innovation of her discography, and it would mess with a lot of the ranking on this. I think they out TSwift in there for popularity sake (same with Rihanna) but if we’re gonna be honest with ourselves, neither really has a spot here. Like, I didn’t see Madonna but I’d put her and Rihanna in a similar bucket of vocalist performance. It’s an odd list def designed to be controversial lmao

[NoahConstrictor 16]

It is kind of a strange thought but this 'of all time' list only has singers from the last century. Like there were no great vocalists among the billions of people who lived in the 10.000+ years prior. The greatest vocalist was probably some unknown person in 300 BC who we will never know even existed. 

But I'm too philosophical right now. 😂

[Ziggy 10,825]

Actually you know what

In addition to celine

where tf is Maria callas and Julie andrews? I’m sure they’re keeping it solo recording artists but that’s omitting some of the greatest vocal talents of the western canon  and also Ms julie did release a Christmas album so she’d still be eligible 

[Reality 73,247]

51 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Sure but I’m saying that the list is about vocal performance (which is more than ability; performance is about the stylistic and artistic choices one makes as well) not necessarily talent exclusively. But even on that metric, which defends inclusions of the likes of Springsteen and Bob Dylan, tbh Taylor shouldn’t be there when someone like Shania Twain isn’t. Taylor is a star for her songwriting but I think it’s a little disingenuous to say she’s ever given a particularly standout knockout vocal performance compared to fellow country-pop pioneers like Shania. That’s just my two cents. The list is about best *singers* which encompasses more about the performance aspect and what they’re able to do and evoke with their voice outside of pure technical talent. It doesn’t (or at least shouldn’t) factor in songwriting at all. And if it does, then ****, Bjork needs to be MUCH higher for the sheer scale of complexity and innovation of her discography, and it would mess with a lot of the ranking on this. I think they out TSwift in there for popularity sake (same with Rihanna) but if we’re gonna be honest with ourselves, neither really has a spot here. Like, I didn’t see Madonna but I’d put her and Rihanna in a similar bucket of vocalist performance. It’s an odd list def designed to be controversial lmao

Again, I’m not defending the list. I know it’s flawed and I know that there are artists there that probably are ranked higher than they deserve and that there are artists who are completely omitted who deserve to be on the list. At the end of the day, it’s just an opinion piece made by one organization. No matter who they decided to put where, you’d end up pissing off someone. Idk why people are taking this so seriously

[RodeckDanny 2,262]

Guise Kurt Cobain is #36. This list is obviously not about the best 'vocalist' - focusing on the technique, but most likely about special voices and what they can transmit 

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On 1/4/2023 at 1:22 AM, RodeckDanny said:

Guise Kurt Cobain is #36. This list is obviously not about the best 'vocalist' - focusing on the technique, but most likely about special voices and what they can transmit 

it's about the artist's overall relevance, talent, discography, influence, ability... I think the word "singers" in the titlee is misleading