Renaissance debuts at #1 on Billboard's Dance/Electronic Albums Chart

[Teletubby 141,029]

It's also at #3 on Top R&B Albums chart this week.

 

Billboard genre chart categorization is determined by Billboard’s charts department, using genre classifications provided by content creators as guidelines, along with consideration of how projects are promoted and marketed — at streaming services, radio and beyond. 

Renaissance was initially categorized, after discussions with Columbia, for Billboard’s Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums and Top R&B Albums charts.

https://www.billboard.com/pro/beyonce-renaissance-tops-billboard-dance-electronic-albums-chart/

[Sexxx 5,544]

Should just be allowed to chart in one genre 

[Meat 18,962]

How can it be on both dance and R&B charts at the same time? 

[Sherry 4,715]

  On 11/22/2022 at 2:06 PM, Meat said:

How can it be on both dance and R&B charts at the same time? 

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Payola sis 

[Charmz 4,104]

Happy for her and her fans.

Sad and angry for the artists that went uncredited and unpaid for their work on this album. 
 

[PatrickMonster 6,205]

Its gonna block the fame from getting back to number one 😩

[Meat 18,962]

  On 11/22/2022 at 2:19 PM, PatrickMonster said:

Its gonna block the fame from getting back to number one 😩

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Beyoncé albums lack longevity. She has zero old albums charting on BB200 right now. The Fame will reclaim its spot soon enough.

[Teletubby 141,029]

  On 11/22/2022 at 2:31 PM, Meat said:

Beyoncé albums lack longevity. She has zero old albums charting on BB200 right now. The Fame will reclaim its spot soon enough.

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there is Drake's Honestly, Nevermind at #2. it has been at #1 on Dance/Electronic Albums chart for 20 weeks.

[Meat 18,962]

  On 11/22/2022 at 2:37 PM, Teletubby said:

there is Drake's Honestly, Nevermind at #2. it has been at #1 on Dance/Electronic Albums chart for 20 weeks.

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And The Fame has been #1 for more than 300 weeks. Trust me, it’ll be back. 

[HeavyMetal Halcyon 1,590]

  On 11/22/2022 at 2:06 PM, Meat said:

How can it be on both dance and R&B charts at the same time? 

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Because "R&B" doesn't really exist. It's a genre made up by white people to segregate black music from white music. 

[Meat 18,962]

  On 11/22/2022 at 4:42 PM, HeavyMetal Halcyon said:

Because "R&B" doesn't really exist. It's a genre made up by white people to segregate black music from white music. 

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R&B is a genre if you didn’t know. Going by your logic the dance chart shouldn’t exist either.

[HeavyMetal Halcyon 1,590]

  On 11/22/2022 at 4:45 PM, Meat said:

R&B is a genre if you didn’t know. Going by your logic the dance chart shouldn’t exist either.

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The Dance chart on billboard was specifically curated to reflect music that is most played in dance clubs, compiled from reports from a national sample of club DJs. R&B is literally just pop music. 

Any R&B song could be pop, but not any pop/R&B song could be "Dance" 

[Aleks 3,888]

  On 11/22/2022 at 4:51 PM, HeavyMetal Halcyon said:

R&B is literally just pop music. Any R&B song could be pop, but not any pop/R&B song could be "Dance" 

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  On 11/22/2022 at 4:42 PM, HeavyMetal Halcyon said:

Because "R&B" doesn't really exist. It's a genre made up by white people to segregate black music from white music. 

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Yeah, no…

“The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records. Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music. From 1960s to 1970s, several British bands such as the Rolling Stones, the Who and the Animals were referred to and promoted as being R&B bands. By the 1970s, the term "rhythm and blues" had changed again and was used as a blanket term for soul and funk. In the late 1980s, a newer style of R&B developed, becoming known as "contemporary R&B". It combines rhythm and blues with elements of pop, soul, funk, disco, hip hop, and electronic music.”

[HeavyMetal Halcyon 1,590]

  On 11/22/2022 at 5:12 PM, Aleks said:

Yeah, no…

“The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records. Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music. From 1960s to 1970s, several British bands such as the Rolling Stones, the Who and the Animals were referred to and promoted as being R&B bands. By the 1970s, the term "rhythm and blues" had changed again and was used as a blanket term for soul and funk. In the late 1980s, a newer style of R&B developed, becoming known as "contemporary R&B". It combines rhythm and blues with elements of pop, soul, funk, disco, hip hop, and electronic music.”

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Ugh, I was hoping people would be a little more open to this... but here we go:

The term R&B was coined to replace the term "Race Music." 
https://theurbandaily.com/816655/from-race-music-to-rhythm-blues/

I fully understand the history of R&B. This requires a little more critical thought and societal reflection than a google search into R&B history. 

Many artists are starting to speak out about this issue. Like how Chance the Rapper is automatically labeled hip-hop/rap despite just making pop music. 

If you google "R&B artists" you're only going to find People of color. Songs that COULD be classified as R&B but are made by white people (Adele, Sam Smith, etc.) are automatically routed to the pop charts, while black artists are boxed into the R&B / Rap categories. 

It is a systemic issue within the music industry as a whole. 

here are a few helpful articles:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/music-industry-racism-1010001/

 https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/black-musicians-on-being-boxed-in-by-randb-and-rap-expectations-we-fit-in-so-many-things/ 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/the-problem-with-pop-1013534/

I hope this helps people understand. 

[Gaga2645 2,145]

  On 11/22/2022 at 4:45 PM, Meat said:

R&B is a genre if you didn’t know. Going by your logic the dance chart shouldn’t exist either.

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Rhythm and Blues though? So many black artists that are pop stars are pushed here by white people and that’s what I think the post you quoted may have been referencing.