FfFfFfFF 58,120 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 The 'Center for Political Innovation': America was founded on genocide of the native people and the slavery of black people. Also them: are casually displaying symbols of present-day genocidal regimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 ...These are literal nobodies and literally nobody of the progressive/socialist voices/politicians in America follow these people Also, it literally says "Russian state affiliated media" next to one of their "founders" twitter bios, these are just literal hired Russian propagandists in the USA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan 2,079 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Why do people always fall for this stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Never gets old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,213 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 These people are likely funded by Russia, like Black Hammer (which was proven to have Kremlin backing). A lot of leftists (even ones that are soft on Russia, ugh) in the US have called them out on their sh*t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 56 minutes ago, Supersonic said: ...These are literal nobodies and literally nobody of the progressive/socialist voices/politicians in America follow these people Also, it literally says "Russian state affiliated media" next to one of their "founders" twitter bios, these are just literal hired Russian propagandists in the USA There are genuinely pro-Russia or at least indirectly pro-Russia leftists in America and a lot of them. All you have to do is take a look at the communtiy of Hasanabi for example, the most famous leftist streamer. They're constantly obsessed with pushing Kremlin propaganda against Ukraine and all the kind of stuff. I wish I could say that these guys are a "small minority" in the left. But they're not. The simple reality is the far left and the far right are aligned on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,565 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Supersonic said: ...These are literal nobodies and literally nobody of the progressive/socialist voices/politicians in America follow these people Also, it literally says "Russian state affiliated media" next to one of their "founders" twitter bios, these are just literal hired Russian propagandists in the USA It’s giving Putin trying to paint all of Ukraine as Nazis when they really have like almost none of them - like every other country ☠️☠️☠️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: LMAO Jesus Christ. This is literally faker than Gaga’s ****. Can you and @FfFfFfFF stop polluting the site w right wing garbage lmao get a grip and do better Your post is pathetic and honestly admins should reprimand you for it. I'm not right wing. Don't decide for me what I am. And if you think I was lying, here are just some clips of Hasanabi saying dumb **** about Ukraine, even saying that Russia's invasion of Crimea was justified. What more do you need? Stop insulting people because they're saying the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,565 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, Dennis said: Your post is pathetic and honestly admins should reprimand you for it. I'm not right wing. Don't decide for me what I am. And if you think I was lying, here are just some clips of Hasanabi saying dumb **** about Ukraine, even saying that Russia's invasion of Crimea was justified. What more do you need? Stop insulting people because they're saying the truth. Your response is even worst and should have stayed in the drafts. Stop using right wing talking points if you don’t wanna be called right wing - simple. and ew no that Destiny video. Sorry but that’s an extremely bigoted source. Nothings changing the hours of coverage I’ve seen him do over some man who personally hates Hasan and everyone in the streaming community knows it and avoids him lmao. Clips tho? It’s not giving the constantly obsessed you claimed. I said do better and you did worse… I’m over this interaction already lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Your response is even worst and should have stayed in the drafts. Stop using right wing talking points if you don’t wanna be called right wing - simple. and ew no that Destiny video. Sorry but that’s an extremely bigoted source. Nothings changing the hours of coverage I’ve seen him do over some man who personally hates Hasan and everyone in the streaming community knows it and avoids him lmao. Clips tho? It’s not giving the constantly obsessed you claimed. I said do better and you did worse… I’m over this interaction already lmao I'm not gonna waste time. I literally gave you a video containing a clip of Hasanabi saying that Crimea invasion was justified. I don't care about Destiny. The fact of the matter is the video shows Hasan himself saying these things so a source doesn't matter when the source is literally Hasan himself. So you can either accept the reality or stop tagging me because you can't handle the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,565 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dennis said: I'm not gonna waste time. I literally gave you a video containing a clip of Hasanabi saying that Crimea invasion was justified. So you can either accept the reality or stop tagging me because you can't handle the truth. In case you’re not concern trolling about Hasan and Crimea, let’s focus on reality with context: his actual thoughts on Crimea. It’s better than any clip you can find - hope you have the patience for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,120 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dennis said: I'm not gonna waste time. I literally gave you a video containing a clip of Hasanabi saying that Crimea invasion was justified. I don't care about Destiny. The fact of the matter is the video shows Hasan himself saying these things so a source doesn't matter when the source is literally Hasan himself. So you can either accept the reality or stop tagging me because you can't handle the truth. When reality doesn't align with your worldview, you just dismiss it. When you are exposed to be in the wrong factually, you claim the source presenting the material is biased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,120 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: In case you’re not concern trolling about Hasan and Crimea, let’s focus on reality with context: his actual thoughts on Crimea. It’s better than any clip you can find - hope you have the patience for it Who gets to decide what are his actual thoughts, those anti-Ukraine or those pro-Ukraine? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman You yourself decided his ''actual thoughts'' are the ones that align with your worldview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: In case you’re not concern trolling about Hasan and Crimea, let’s focus on reality with context: his actual thoughts on Crimea. It’s better than any clip you can find - hope you have the patience for it Ah yes a video where Hasan keeps pushing Kremlin propaganda saying that crimeans wanted to join Russia. I watched that VICE documentary and many others. While they do show a couple of people who wanted to join Russia, they even show how one of them the zoo owner, regretted that choice later. And the report specifically talked about people who oppose Russia are violently silenced and tortured. So it looks like it's you who haven't watched it. Yes Russia is heavily engaging in propaganda in russian-speaking territory mainly appealing to older generations to support Russia. A small part of the population wanting to join Russia does not give Russia the right to invade a country. There is territorial integrity and international law that has to be respected. There are also a few russians in the baltics who want to join Russia, is Hasan going to say give the baltics to Russia too? This is insanity. But yeah thanks for proving me right by the way. You got angry when I said Hasanabi pushes pro-Kremlin propaganda, and few minutes later you link a video that shows just that. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,565 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: Who gets to decide what are his actual thoughts, those anti-Ukraine or those pro-Ukraine? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman You yourself decided his ''actual thoughts'' are the ones that align with your worldview. Please stop the shallow generic “facts over feels” quotes. No one gets to decide anything about what his thoughts are. I literally gave y’all a 26 minute long video and y’all are crying bc he’s trashing Putin in it lmaoooo 10 minutes ago, Dennis said: Ah yes a video where Hasan keeps pushing Kremlin propaganda saying that crimeans wanted to join Russia. I watched that VICE documentary and many others. While they do show a couple of people who wanted to join Russia, they even show how one of them the zoo owner, regretted that choice later. And the report specifically talked about people who oppose Russia are violently silenced and tortured. So it looks like it's you who haven't watched it. Yes Russia is heavily engaging in propaganda in russian-speaking territory mainly appealing to older generations to support Russia. A small part of the population wanting to join Russia does not give Russia the right to invade a country. There is territorial integrity and international law that has to be respected. There are also a few russians in the baltics who want to join Russia, is Hasan going to say give the baltics to Russia too? This is insanity. Russian propaganda?? Not you literally failing to get to the part of that vid where WaPo and Gallup both confirm Crimeans wanting to leave Ukraine… (literally 4 minutes ☠️) Now let’s be serious for a second: nobody is justifying violence, but really, this is no different from Scotland wanting to leave the U.K. If they want to, they should peacefully hold a referendum for that. EDIT: Where is the Russian propaganda? The fact they wanna join isn’t a lie. So like you actually don’t know what Russian propaganda is… oh okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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