Jeremy Hudson left Gaga after abuse from Richy at the BTWB

[TSUNAMI 20,455]

47 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

Something not being public doesn't mean it goes unnoticed: people have known about Weinstein forever and did nothing because they were too scared about losing privileges and opportunities.

Courtney Love being one of them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ladbible.com/entertainment/courtney-love-warned-aspiring-actors-about-harvey-weinstein-in-2005-20220113.amp.html

[Cameltoe Chariot 14,455]

1 minute ago, Regina George said:

I thought so too and I think he’s also kinda saying how it seems like nothing’s been done even recently after those allegations got out. 

I think it's also important to point out that he was talking about both Richy being an abusive boss and the years of sexual abuse he was experiencing at the hands of a very powerful and connected dance instructor, Mark Meiser, when he was only 17 years old.

I would imagine when he's talking about the severity of these issues and about "nothing being done", he'd be talking about Mark... who is still currently teaching children and has over 2 million followers on instagram.

[Concertaholic 5,477]

This honestly makes me disgusted that Gaga still tagged Richy in her post yesterday 

[eunino 1,475]

Graham just posted on his stories as well encouraging people to go and check Jeremy’s posts. Its so brave seeing them supporting each other and speaking these things out as a true community, but at the same time so frustrating/sad how silent things are on the other side. 

[Cameltoe Chariot 14,455]

6 minutes ago, Edonis said:

Some of us do work in corporate roles and I can guarantee you when employees quit or are fired in large numbers, HR is going to ask why. Unless they withhold the truth from the employer (and there are a variety of valid reasons why this may be the case), no employment contract is going to be so legally binding that you cannot fire someone based on abuse. I mean come on, do you realize how ridiculous that sounds, thinking that if a boss abuses workers so much that people quit in droves that a contract is going to prevent termination even when found guilty??????

Even in the most toxic of work environments, it would be highly improbable to have a contract so powerful that someone who violates company policy cannot face consequences i.e. termination. It happens all the time.

Something else is going on.

The extremely frustrating part of this is that if I shared my experience, if I told you where I worked and how my exit happened, the way in which the company involved COULD NOT fire my boss, and how much money they paid me to exit quietly... you all would literally gag.

It was absolutely criminal, but the contracts and the ways in which this boss was connected to major projects and other moving pieces within the company made it impossible to fire them at the time. They had manipulated and worked very hard to position themselves in a near untouchable position.

There was a mass exit of employees. There were multiple complaints. The boss in question did countless f*cked up and terrible things to people. But because it was never directly witnessed, wasn’t reported immediately, and because they had made sure they were contractually bulletproof… they got to keep their job.

This isn't to say Richy can't be fired, but it IS to say that this is absolutely an extremely complicated and messy situation with a lot of legal hurdles. I have no doubt Gaga will kick his ass to the curb eventually, but based off my experience I truly don't think she can just do it with a flick of a finger.

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3 minutes ago, Concertaholic said:

This honestly makes me disgusted that Gaga still tagged Richy in her post yesterday 

Maybe she just did that to prevent any suspision you how the internet works

[SarahYuko 1,002]

I feel awful for Jeremy, 17 is so young to be exposed to that kind of abuse and harm. I hope he's found some peace in the years since. He's so brave for naming him and telling his truth, and it breaks my heart to know his abuser is still alive, well and working with more young people.

Regarding the haus, is this issue not kinda parallel to what happened to Ellen? Her studio having a toxic environment and whatnot was a huge part of the fallout if I remember correctly, and I can't imagine the public's gonna take Gaga lightly if they get a whiff of this.

[Reginald 13,835]

1 minute ago, SarahYuko said:

Regarding the haus, is this issue not kinda parallel to what happened to Ellen? Her studio having a toxic environment and whatnot was a huge part of the fallout if I remember correctly, and I can't imagine the public's gonna take Gaga lightly if they get a whiff of this.

This is my big fear, I see the parallels, as well  A week ago when the first person spoke out, I was very much in support of keeping things private, but now we have a much bigger story going on. 

[Evil R 1,084]

I think it's better to accept the situation than creating excuses.

In the locked thread, it was explained how his contract can be terminated. Somebody else also shared his earlier leaked contract stating that it can be terminated anytime with any cause.

 

[Ultimecia 6,025]

This industry is just too cruel, poor Gaga can't catch a f***ing break.

[Suuus 5,632]

2 minutes ago, Thoth said:

I think it's better to accept the situation than creating excuses.

In the locked thread, it was explained how his contract can be terminated. Somebody else also shared his earlier leaked contract stating that it can be terminated anytime with any cause.

 

No one is making excuses we are just trying to come up exsplanations 

[Edonis 28,792]

15 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said:

The extremely frustrating part of this is that if I shared my experience, if I told you where I worked and how my exit happened, the way in which the company involved COULD NOT fire my boss, and how much money they paid me to exit quietly... you all would literally gag.

It was absolutely criminal, but the contracts and the ways in which this boss was connected to major projects and other moving pieces within the company made it impossible to fire them at the time. They had manipulated and worked very hard to position themselves in a near untouchable position.

There was a mass exit of employees. There were multiple complaints. The boss in question did countless f*cked up and terrible things to people. But because it was never directly witnessed, wasn’t reported immediately, and because they had made sure they were contractually bulletproof… they got to keep their job.

This isn't to say Richy can't be fired, but it IS to say that this is absolutely an extremely complicated and messy situation with a lot of legal hurdles. I have no doubt Gaga will kick his ass to the curb eventually, but based off my experience I truly don't think she can just do it with a flick of a finger.

I think there's a bit of confusion coming from your perspective about what I'm saying...

I'm just speaking from the perspective of a contract itself. The legal language that undergoes redlining, negotiation, and review by some sort of Office of General Council would not be worded in such a way that termination is not clearly communicated when signing the contract. There are bad contracts out there, where termination language is vague, but no legal clause that would prevent you from walking away.

Regarding your post, workplace manipulation and a toxic work environment obviously can play a role. I'm not denying that there could be higher up suits willing to protect someone, or manipulate the work environment in such a way where it is difficult to terminate an employee, but that has nothing to do with the contract itself. 

At the end of the day, Gaga is the face of her brand, of her product. It doesn't matter who is at fault, the longer you delay action when accusations arise, the worse it will look. It will snowball to a point where it can be career-damaging, especially is legal investigations from 3rd parties uncovers prior knowledge of the abuse.

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1 minute ago, Thoth said:

I think it's better to accept the situation than creating excuses.

In the locked thread, it was explained how his contract can be terminated. Somebody else also shared his earlier leaked contract stating that it can be terminated anytime with any cause.

 

With all due respect that contract was drawn up at the very least 8 or 9 years ago at this point, and appears to be specifically for the tour. He's now (or was) both choreographer and creative director is some capacity. I keep trying to point out the concept of contract stacking and how what is likely now on the table is VERY different from nearly a decade ago, but people are more interested in being angry at Gaga I guess lmao

Honestly you guys, I'm really not talking out of my ass here  I wish I could disclose the details of my former job but I can only be vague. I know we want to cancel the abuser, and I have no doubt he will be... all I'm trying to point out is that removing him is likely going to be a slow process.

[Rebel 5,221]

Well 

 

[mikedu24 706]

I read this as Jennifer Hudson and got confused for a sec