Debithius 5,837 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Isn't current modern music thanks to Gaga? I mean yeah Madonna opened a lot of doors for people like Gaga to exist but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout19 11,715 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Julia Fox said: Gaga and Dua Lipa. edit. why the lmaos? i'm a powerpuff girl. ○● Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout19 11,715 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Blackout19 said: I said that change pop music i'm a powerpuff girl. ○● Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,365 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Blackout19 said: oh i misread the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, PartySick said: I think she said he screamed, ran out the room, and had one of his maids or something go in and tell her to leave It's been a while since I've heard the story though so maybe I'm making that up Awww no my poor baby. I think he didn't like things like that so... it's just not right Madonna It reminds me of this story about this beautiful woman it was early 80s, Michael I think didn't even do Off The Wall, but they met at a party and then she took him to her hotel room. Spoiler and as she was undressing, he covered his face and said he felt really uncomfortable, scared, and just not feeling well at all. So nothing happened in the end. This story always made me theorize that he could've been traumatized by what he saw as a child (seeing his brothers on tour with girls, things he shouldn't see) or that he was so deeply insecure he couldn't deal with this aspect of a relationship, or some kind of asexuality but no one would ever know except him Do you remember this story at all?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celloo Deng 54,824 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 58 minutes ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: U can tell she liked him by the way she's mimicking his mannerisms, it's a sign someone likes you, or when someone uses words that you use, or mimicks your laugh, it's unconscious but it's a sign. I'm just letting you know Cello in case u need that information later on in your life I can't blame her, he looks fiiiiine here she/her 👹🖤 | Vanish Into You 🎶 HMHAS 🎶 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,822 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 43 minutes ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: Awww no my poor baby. I think he didn't like things like that so... it's just not right Madonna It reminds me of this story about this beautiful woman it was early 80s, Michael I think didn't even do Off The Wall, but they met at a party and then she took him to her hotel room. Reveal hidden contents and as she was undressing, he covered his face and said he felt really uncomfortable, scared, and just not feeling well at all. So nothing happened in the end. This story always made me theorize that he could've been traumatized by what he saw as a child (seeing his brothers on tour with girls, things he shouldn't see) or that he was so deeply insecure he couldn't deal with this aspect of a relationship, or some kind of asexuality but no one would ever know except him Do you remember this story at all?? I don't know that I've heard that story. It sounds kinda like what happened with Tatum O'neal though. She said she had him sitting and she starting kissing him and unbuttoning his shirt and he just covered his face and wouldn't go any farther which is good 'cause she was 13, he was 17 I know age gaps weren't a huge issue back in those days (see Elvis dating a 14 year old when he was like 20 or something) but that's still icky imo. He told Rabbi Shmuley in 2001 that the best thing was when they held hands. It made him "melt" Relatable, Mikey. Anyway, I think he was really into Brooke Shields by the 1980s and they semi-dated for a few years so idk where that story fits in Then his fling with Madonna before marrying Lisa Marie...then ditching Lisa for Debbie 'cause he was more interested in being a father than a husband and Lisa (rightfully, tbh ) refused to have his kids But also yes! I've theorized before that his experiences as a kid, from being forced to peek up women's skirts in strip clubs to having to pretend to be asleep while his brothers had sex with groupies in the same bed, likely left him sexually repressed and traumatized. But then you have accounts from Lisa Marie about their sex life which was healthy apart from MJ's werid noises that made her laugh Idk, he's an interesting study tbh. And as someone who's had certain experiences in life, I relate to him on a psychological level ....anyway, this is waaaay off topic for this thread 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, PartySick said: He told Rabbi Shmuley in 2001 that the best thing was when they held hands. It made him "melt" I can so relate to him on all of this, little romantic gestures for me are wow, but then when you gotta get down to business well gotta take a super special person 5 minutes ago, PartySick said: Then his fling with Madonna before marrying Lisa Marie...then ditching Lisa for Debbie 'cause he was more interested in being a father than a husband and Lisa (rightfully, tbh ) refused to have his kids Yeah Im kinda sad it didn't work with Lisa, because it seems like she was really in love with him, but maybe it was one-sided and she loved him more than he loved her. Crazy thing is Lisa has so many kids now, I think if he gave her time she'd have kids with him and imagine being born with Elvis as your grandpa, MJ as your dad 6 minutes ago, PartySick said: But also yes! I've theorized before that his experiences as a kid, from being forced to peek up women's skirts in strip clubs to having to pretend to be asleep while his brothers had sex with groupies in the same bed, likely left him sexually repressed and traumatized. But then you have accounts from Lisa Marie about their sex life which was healthy apart from MJ's werid noises that made her laugh Idk, he's an interesting study tbh. And as someone who's had certain experiences in life, I relate to him on a psychological level ....anyway, this is waaaay off topic for this thread Me too... and I also can relate to him but in a different way, another experience I had during puberty (nothing tragic dont worry but it's an experience that has traumatized my brain probably). I gotta dig up more stuff bout his rship with Lisa Marie cause it's interesting to me. Very off topic but omg so interesting I wish we could speak about it with other MJ fans who would add their knowledge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,822 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: Yeah Im kinda sad it didn't work with Lisa, because it seems like she was really in love with him, but maybe it was one-sided and she loved him more than he loved her. Crazy thing is Lisa has so many kids now, I think if he gave her time she'd have kids with him and imagine being born with Elvis as your grandpa, MJ as your dad Well, she said she wouldn't have his kids 'cause she knew it'd end up being a custody issue later and tbh she was right Between his weird obsession with Elvis' death, the kiss stunt, and how he deadass told her Debbie was willing to have his kids if she wasn't...I don't blame her at all for leaving him he was a whole ass to her They apparently did try a few times to patch things up though but like I said, he was more interested in being a dad than having a wife But I believe they truly did love each other, some things just don't work out. 9 minutes ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: Very off topic but omg so interesting I wish we could speak about it with other MJ fans who would add their knowledge We do have an MJ thread in the fanbase section 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, PartySick said: Well, she said she wouldn't have his kids 'cause she knew it'd end up being a custody issue later and tbh she was right Between his weird obsession with Elvis' death, the kiss stunt, and how he deadass told her Debbie was willing to have his kids if she wasn't...I don't blame her at all for leaving him he was a whole ass to her They apparently did try a few times to patch things up though but like I said, he was more interested in being a dad than having a wife But I believe they truly did love each other, some things just don't work out. Oh yes I remember him asking her questions about his death and him saying he has a feeling he'll have the same fate 2 minutes ago, PartySick said: We do have an MJ thread in the fanbase section Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeX 640 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Madonna and Gagz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 14,963 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Michael and Madonna transformed pop music into the way we know it today. Bombastic performances, choreo, experimentation from all angles, next level costumes, visuals, etc., not to mention they brought modern pop music to the mainstream British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRedd 3,139 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 MJ, Madonna, Janet tbh. Janet doesn’t get near enough credit but her music, choreography, and skills were a blueprint to soooo many talents. May I Read You? 😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAYHEMikey 7,959 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 hours ago, PartySick said: I think she said he screamed, ran out the room, and had one of his maids or something go in and tell her to leave It's been a while since I've heard the story though so maybe I'm making that up Didn’t he also say that she’s an evil witch? I remember there being leaked phone call recordings but idk if they’re fake or not Anyway I’m still dreaming of the In The Closet feature NO DUCT TAPE - NO MISSON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,822 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, M i K E Y said: Didn’t he also say that she’s an evil witch? I remember there being leaked phone call recordings but idk if they’re fake or not Anyway I’m still dreaming of the In The Closet feature I think so What a dramatic individual. We have to stan 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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