NYC Mayor to bring back Stop & Frisk, destroy all homeless ppl home

[LateToCult 41,832]

5 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said:

It's a really eye-opening experience living close to them for so long, having to step over them when I'm walking to the bus, threatening to call the police when they continue to loiter at my job and stink up our lobby. I do have empathy, but my perspective has changed a lot over the years...

This exactly. My attitude on the topic has changed a lot over the years as I’ve lived and grown in my city. I used to be very utopian (for lack of a better word) about the topic but now I’ve definitely hardened and I think that’s something that’s happening in other west coast cities. Yes, it’s wrong that people are homeless but that doesn’t mean it’s okay for our streets, parks, and even school grounds to go to hell. Especially when a lot of the people doing it are actively refusing help. And it’s very frustrating that our elected officials are either clueless on the topic or have tunnel vision directed at Amazon and performative wokeness that does absolutely nothing for us.

[Dojo 19,823]

i was traumatized by the homeless people in LA, it made my visit so unpleaseant

one woman followed us begging for money, it was so awkward, we were afraid if we took money out the other 4000 homeless were going to follow us as well

[freebit 6,264]

Ugh, there needs to be an "angry" reaction. That's awful, and this guy is The Worst. How did he get elected? Was it a bait and switch? Just, WTF.

Also, its messed up he's doing this while the economy is terrible, not to mention housing is worse than ever. When its hard to make a decent living, and rent is through the roof, etc., then yes, homelessness is going to fester. What do they expect?

[Bling 31,680]

5 hours ago, LateToCult said:

This exactly. My attitude on the topic has changed a lot over the years as I’ve lived and grown in my city. I used to be very utopian (for lack of a better word) about the topic but now I’ve definitely hardened and I think that’s something that’s happening in other west coast cities. Yes, it’s wrong that people are homeless but that doesn’t mean it’s okay for our streets, parks, and even school grounds to go to hell. Especially when a lot of the people doing it are actively refusing help. And it’s very frustrating that our elected officials are either clueless on the topic or have tunnel vision directed at Amazon and performative wokeness that does absolutely nothing for us.

It's so sad on all accounts. My friend who has a 9yo son told me they had to put a wire fence around his elementary school because so many homeless people have set up camp around the perimeter and they were sneaking in and going to the bathroom at the school. We drove by there and literally the entire block was filled with homeless camps. I can't imagine the fear instilled in children having to see that. Also, the city had to install large boulder rocks in-between foliage display on the sidewalk because so many people would just set up their tents there. Idk if you have been down to Portland recently but apparently downtown is a hellhole rn. I'm actually coming to Vancouver on Friday and staying for a while. Will check out Portland while I am here. So sad because I grew to love the city so much and to see what it's become is just tragic. 

[Bling 31,680]

1 hour ago, dojo said:

i was traumatized by the homeless people in LA, it made my visit so unpleaseant

one woman followed us begging for money, it was so awkward, we were afraid if we took money out the other 4000 homeless were going to follow us as well

It can be very traumatic for sure. I've had a handful of scary experiences including one where my friend and I were on the train and this homeless guy cracked out on meth or something, was walking/stumbling around on the train in a circle, and mumbling to himself. He had this baseball bat and he literally said "I'm gonna bash this f*ggot's head in!" It was one of the scariest moments of my life. 

[RAMROD 117,010]

I suppose this is a difficult issue. We just need to get enough space to build affordable housing for them, or turning old buildings into affordable housings, so they can actually apply for a job, among other things, (applying for benefits, a library card, opening a bank account or getting on the electoral register.) and actually able to get themselves off the streets. Since many places not gonna bother interviewing you if you don't have a place of living/fixed address.

And the terrible thing is, now go watch many Californians wanted this done here too. 

[MonsterofFame 1,797]

Anyone calling this terrible - have you even visited or lived in a city with homeless like this?

People are not supporting this to be mean. Most homeless people are mentally ill. They harass people and lately there have been more violent attacks by homeless people. They are a danger to people in the city, and they shouldn't be on the street to begin with. There are shelters and resources to use, and that's where they should be.

[MonsterofFame 1,797]

Also, for the 5% of people who actually made it to the end of the official announcement:

"To be clear," said Commissioner Sewell, "this is NOT a return to Stop, Question, and Frisk – nor is it 'policing for numbers.'

These tweets are FAKE NEWS!!!

[Economy 52,842]

17 hours ago, LateToCult said:

This is probably a very unpopular opinion but clearing out camps is necessary at times. Jackson street running through Seattle’s international district had a very dangerous one a few months back. It absolutely needed to be cleared out. I would take the 14 bus line through it and felt very unsafe many times because of the people that would get on and off. These were people that could switch on you in an instance because they were on drugs and severely mentally ill. The kind of people rehab centers wouldn’t even want to take in because of the threat they posed to their staff. Eventually started driving to work because it was just stupid to endanger myself like that. Until we get a better system for housing these people, sweeps will be a necessary thing to do to keep the regular citizens safe.

I half agree with u.

 

I understand why every so often some of these camps need to be cleaned cuz they really can get out of hand

 

I just hate the fact that Governments treat the symptom which is the easy part with force which is basically a slap to those that already have nothing but then don't do enough to adress the real issue

 

I would be a little less hesitant to support actions like this if at the very least the ppl that had their camps removed were given some kind of alternative or better help you know?