River 116,471 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 11 hours ago, elijahfan said: I think the issue with these films is that they're just making them for the sake of making them. They have nothing to say. They plan them, and then think about a story as an afterthought. As a screenwriter, you should know this isn't how it's supposed to work. Watch the Marvel Studios: Assembled (the behind the scenes) to see how you're wrong. What Marvel did with MCU non other studio or franchise did before. But Morbius is Sony and a different universe and these movies are bad so far. And I think it's kinda hypocrite to even complain about superheros film while working for Emily In Paris, as much as I love the tv show and support you and the team, the story of the show is pretty simple and easy going, just another rom-com. There's no differences between Superhero films to Titanic or another blockbuster films.. but it's wrong to treat them like junk as a whole because there are many gems among them. Nobody here is expecting these movie to be some Cannes Festival movies with very deep story, leave that to more serious and dramatic movies. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,112 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, Eido said: The baseline for the different phases and movies/TV shows are planned well in advance during the writing of the Bibles It is exactly how it is supposed to work as they write phases like they would right a TV shows you not wanting to understand that is not really my problem It is a tremendous work as they have to make each movie / TV show independent and yet dependent of the story of the phase (currently the Multivers) Having some sort of map of what's to come doesn't mean each individual story will be interesting and fresh... Like I said, they're working in reverse. They should focus more on each film instead of being obsessed with planning the next decade of features. I'd say having a basic baseline is the absolute least they could do in this working model. Also, why so defensive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,112 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, River said: Watch the Marvel Studios: Assembled (the behind the scenes) to see how you're wrong. What Marvel did with MCU non other studio or franchise did before. But Morbius is Sony and a different universe and these movies are bad so far. And I think it's kinda hypocrite to even complain about superheros film while working for Emily In Paris, as much as I love the tv show and support you and the team, the story of the show is pretty simple and easy going, just another rom-com. There's no differences between Superhero films to Titanic or another blockbuster films.. but it's wrong to treat them like junk as a whole because there are many gems among them. Nobody here is expecting these movie to be some Cannes Festival movies with very deep story, leave that to more serious and dramatic movies. I mean if you find those movies satisfying, good for you. It's great to be entertained by something that gives you an escape and brings you joy, but you should also be open to hearing criticism and the fact that some people won't necessarily agree with you. Don't pretend that the assertion Marvel or Sony movies are repetitious CGI-fests something you're hearing for the first time. I used to be a big fan of super-hero movies when I was a kid, because there were 2 films tops coming out each year, these were events. Now there are just too much, it has become more a business model than a cinematic experience. I'm genuinely fed up. Even though I still watch and enjoy some Marvel movies today, the excitement I felt when I was 12 years old has considerably worn off. And the fact film crews have worked their asses off on those movies doesn't really change the fact that these are made first and foremost by big studios that are more interested in getting richer than making fresh and thought-provoking stories. As for your very personal attack, I would simply say that I'm not responsible for the scripts of the shows I'm working on, nor am I pretending said shows are perfect and shouldn't be criticized in any way - I work in costume design, so I should know. This is just a very strange thing to bring up and I'm not sure what I should understand. Because I worked on something that people have criticized, I can't express an educated opinion on something else? Very weird and uncalled for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, elijahfan said: Having some sort of map of what's to come doesn't mean each individual story will be interesting and fresh... Like I said, they're working in reverse. They should focus more on each film instead of being obsessed with planning the next decade of features. I'd say having a basic baseline is the absolute least they could do in this working model. Also, why so defensive? First off, your “show” proved to be a blockade for real TV when producers took away nominations for shows that actually deserved recognition. Especially black women. You’re shoe isn’t good enough so producers have to buy their way into award shows and marketing… So don’t come in here and start telling creatives how to do their work when your side clearly has issues of quality control. you don’t even watch Marvel films in the first place. So why are you here wasting all of our time? It’s going nowhere. People have given you examples of BTS footage of Marvel shows/films and how such things are made. If you’re not even going to try engaging then leave. a ”basic baseline” is what they’re already doing. It’s called ADAPTATION. The source material already is there in the comics. MoonKnight for example has already been praised for doing its own thing and not relying on being too connected to other MCU projects. But of course you wouldn’t know because all you want to do is run your mouth and ignore the facts. Moribus is a bad film BECAUSE it doesn’t prep for future installments. The post credits are examples of that where they don’t make any sense in regards to other Spider-Man films.. that’s why the MCU works… because people smartly lay out what’s to come. You know, exactly what you’re complaining that they should do. Leave it to the professionals who actually know what they’re doing you. . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 It’s like arguing with a Trumpet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,112 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: First off, your “show” proved to be a blockade for real TV when producers took away nominations for shows that actually deserved recognition. Especially black women. You’re shoe isn’t good enough so producers have to buy their way into award shows and marketing… So don’t come in here and start telling creatives how to do their work when your side clearly has issues of quality control. you don’t even watch Marvel films in the first place. So why are you here wasting all of our time? It’s going nowhere. People have given you examples of BTS footage of Marvel shows/films and how such things are made. If you’re not even going to try engaging then leave. a ”basic baseline” is what they’re already doing. It’s called ADAPTATION. The source material already is there in the comics. MoonKnight for example has already been praised for doing its own thing and not relying on being too connected to other MCU projects. But of course you wouldn’t know because all you want to do is run your mouth and ignore the facts. Moribus is a bad film BECAUSE it doesn’t prep for future installments. The post credits are examples of that where they don’t make any sense in regards to other Spider-Man films.. that’s why the MCU works… because people smartly lay out what’s to come. You know, exactly what you’re complaining that they should do. Leave it to the professionals who actually know what they’re doing you. . . As a matter of fact, I have watched pretty much all of the MCU films, so the joke's on you I guess. I'm not pretending people aren't working hard on these films, just that they've oversaturated the market and have become repetitious and boring. I've seen those films, this is my opinion, and it's as admissible as anyone else's. Contrary to some people, I don't talk about things I don't know or haven't experienced, that would be stupid indeed. Now, if you guys want to keep on with the personal attacks: I'm working in costume design. If you want to tell me something about costume design, come and talk to me. I'll gladly have a debate and a conversation about the field I actually worked in. If you have an issue with the story of the show or the way it's been marketed, go complain to the writers or the producers. I have nothing more to add than what I said already. Or just that I think this has gone in a very pathetic direction, and the gratuitous anger in these posts is just very telling. Not GGD's proudest moment here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,112 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: It’s like arguing with a Trumpet. If you mean like talking to a wall, yeah it kinda does, doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 5,187 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 How a post-credit scene could be worse than a whole movie It's going to be an interesting watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whigney Houstan 1,219 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 I'll never understand why so many people cling to these executive concocted "paint-by-number" movies. Regardless whether it's Disney, Sony, or DC, it's all just...tew much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,327 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Girl, I knew this movie would be bad since that teaser trailer in 2020 🦠🧙♀️🥀📸🎉👻🕺🧟💊💖☎️🔪👤🐺🌱🌎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley 9,393 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 what do they mean by 2000’s plot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,512 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 8 hours ago, ZacharyMark said: First off, your “show” proved to be a blockade for real TV when producers took away nominations for shows that actually deserved recognition. Especially black women. You’re shoe isn’t good enough so producers have to buy their way into award shows and marketing… So don’t come in here and start telling creatives how to do their work when your side clearly has issues of quality control. you don’t even watch Marvel films in the first place. So why are you here wasting all of our time? It’s going nowhere. People have given you examples of BTS footage of Marvel shows/films and how such things are made. If you’re not even going to try engaging then leave. a ”basic baseline” is what they’re already doing. It’s called ADAPTATION. The source material already is there in the comics. MoonKnight for example has already been praised for doing its own thing and not relying on being too connected to other MCU projects. But of course you wouldn’t know because all you want to do is run your mouth and ignore the facts. Moribus is a bad film BECAUSE it doesn’t prep for future installments. The post credits are examples of that where they don’t make any sense in regards to other Spider-Man films.. that’s why the MCU works… because people smartly lay out what’s to come. You know, exactly what you’re complaining that they should do. Leave it to the professionals who actually know what they’re doing you. . . Well I think sometimes it works against Marvel that basically every movie and show has to set up the next adventure. Sometimes I just want to enjoy a complete story and not wait for the pay off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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