elijahfan 26,305 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Guillaume Hamon said: Valid point but since it never seems to be Palestine time to be placed on top of the priority list, they try at every time. After all these decades they know they better do so. It's like gay wedding, if we would have waited for the right time it would still not exist cause there always were a more important issue to deal with. I get what you mean, but I think we’ve rarely been on the brink of such a global conflict in our lifetime. If there’s a moment to put non-vital societal issues on the back burner, it’s now. Also, we all know the Israelo-Palestinian issue isn’t getting fixed any time soon… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,979 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I have so much respect for her, this is actually a brave and valid point to make that most people in Hollywood would be too scared to make. Injustice is Injustice. Point. Blank. Period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitaOral 1,322 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 She is 100 percent right, people only care about suffering when it is white people who are being affected. Just like people are speaking out against russia for what they are doing to ukraine also keep that same energy for what israel is doing to palestine and what america did to iraq/afghanistan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,885 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, elijahfan said: non-vital societal issues Non-vital to white Westerners* because I'm damn sure it's very vital to people who are literally being murdered and colonized on the daily. The fact that ethnic cleansing and genocide (nevermind Israel's threats to the region as a whole) are considered non-vital just because they don't affect Europe or the US (who benefit from and support them) is very telling of the current problem lol. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,305 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, alsemanche said: Non-vital to white Westerners* because I'm damn sure it's very vital to people who are literally being murdered and colonized on the daily. The fact that ethnic cleansing and genocide (nevermind Israel's threats to the region as a whole) are considered non-vital just because they don't affect Europe or the US (who benefit from and support them) is very telling of the current problem lol. By « non-vital societal issues », I was actually referring to the gay marriage point, so get off your high horse. About Palestine, it’s been a mess for nearly a century, we all know this is not getting a resolution anytime soon. Nobody’s saying this isn’t tragic and important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,885 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, elijahfan said: By « non-vital societal issues », I was actually referring to the gay marriage point, so get off your high horse. About Palestine, it’s been a mess for nearly a century, we all know this is not getting a resolution anytime soon. Nobody’s saying this isn’t tragic and important. My bad about the first part, the second part still makes no sense because ignoring it only makes it worse, especially when it has been this way for nearly a century because no one gives a flying f*ck about Palestinian lives. And it's mostly ignored because, once again, it doesn't affect Western societies as much and they profit from it. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,305 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, alsemanche said: My bad about the first part, the second part still makes no sense because ignoring it only makes it worse, especially when it has been this way for nearly a century because no one gives a flying f*ck about Palestinian lives. And it's mostly ignored because, once again, it doesn't affect Western societies as much and they profit from it. Yes you’re probably right. But at some point, Israel and Palestine need to get their **** together. No other country can do it for them. I’m not going to get into this debate here though, but that’s my 2 cents. Hopefully the conflict with Ukraine is recent enough for us to prevent it from spreading by acting fast, that’s all I’m saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,299 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 16 hours ago, Chic said: If anything, the bias is from the people who said nothing about Palestine until there were white people somewhere else being murdered to distract from, but that’s my opinion I’m confused though. When the Isreal/Palestine conflict happened last summer it was non stop media coverage and everyone was talking about it. Same with Afghanistan. Same with the Syrian war and West accepted millions of refugees. I don’t really see how ppl can say that Ukraine is the first war ppl care about just because it’s white ppl. Let’s not forget that Russia is far more powerful and likely to start nuclear war/ww3 than any of those other countries mentioned. The only hypocrisy I see is the silence of china’s genocide but that’s because everyone is scared to call out China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,545 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, Delulu Rogers said: I’m confused though. When the Isreal/Palestine conflict happened last summer it was non stop media coverage and everyone was talking about it. Same with Afghanistan. Same with the Syrian war and West accepted millions of refugees. I don’t really see how ppl can say that Ukraine is the first war ppl care about just because it’s white ppl. Let’s not forget that Russia is far more powerful and likely to start nuclear war/ww3 than any of those other countries mentioned. The only hypocrisy I see is the silence of china’s genocide but that’s because everyone is scared to call out China. Correct. Although, I don't agree with your remark on China. The sad thing is that it has been happening for so long that it isn't featured in news broadcasts on a daily basis. Every now and then there is media coverage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 6,517 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, elijahfan said: But at some point, Israel and Palestine need to get their **** together. No other country can do it for them Honestly it's more about Israel stopping the expansion than about both talking it out. You can't hope for much of a path to peace as long as Israel refuse to let even a tiny bit of land to Palestinians sadly. And Israel does so without gaf cause they know the USA back them up with vetos, public support, military help etc so basically no other countries dare to push them too hard on it and know any resolution will be vetoed anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Delulu Rogers said: I’m confused though. When the Isreal/Palestine conflict happened last summer it was non stop media coverage and everyone was talking about it. Same with Afghanistan. Same with the Syrian war and West accepted millions of refugees. I don’t really see how ppl can say that Ukraine is the first war ppl care about just because it’s white ppl. Let’s not forget that Russia is far more powerful and likely to start nuclear war/ww3 than any of those other countries mentioned. The only hypocrisy I see is the silence of china’s genocide but that’s because everyone is scared to call out China. I think it’s more the deflection from what’s currently happening as a means to put focus on it. I care about both issues. I agree with the China hypocrisy too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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