Meat 18,962 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, WheresMy911Alice said: I would've voted for Bernie tbh. He has a great vision for this country and we need BIG change, now. Even if not all of his campaign promises came to fruition (which they typically don't) we would be in a much better place than we are now. I agree with you. However, I don’t think even 20% of the American population would vote for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Meat said: I agree with you. However, I don’t think even 20% of the American population would vote for him. Idk, if it was Bernie vs Trump? I feel like Bernie would have won with at least similar margins. Whatever support lost with moderate voters would definitely be made up by progressive ones being more energized. Bernie or Biden though, I think it's kinda irrelevant. Our current issues (legislation wise) lie with the two Democratic senators that refuse to fall in line Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,682 Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Meat said: We know he’s not Bernie. That’s why people voted for him People voted for Biden because they were repeatedly told Biden could beat Trump. Reality is anyone was going to beat Trump thanks to his mismanagement of the pandemic. If there was no pandemic I guarantee you Trump would have won a second term. They voted for Biden because the Democratic Party went into panic mode when it looked like Bernie had a chance. Biden is not here to fundamentally change anything - he said it himself. The Democrats are mostly center-right. Not leftists. Neither are their donors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,213 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Unpopular opinion. This tweet is kind of misleading. He's pointing out nearly all the senators from the moderates (excluding Sinema and Manchin) to the center-left to the left (including Bernie, Warren, Baldwin, etc.) support his agenda, so one can't call him a socialist because it's not like only leftists support his agenda. Like Biden punches left at times, but in this case he wasn't punching left. He was just saying everyone supports this except for Manchin and Sinema, so for the latter to act like he's trying to push a hardcore leftist agenda is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,213 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, PartySick said: Bernie or Biden though, I think it's kinda irrelevant. Our current issues (legislation wise) lie with the two Democratic senators that refuse to fall in line It's this. F*cking Manchin and Sinema are horrific and the real problem here. I'm hardly a Biden fan, but he's not actually beating up on the left here. He's trying to explain that nearly everyone, from the left to the center left to the moderates, support his agenda so for Manchin and Sinema to act like he's trying to push a hardcore leftist agenda that only Bernie supports is ridiculous. And yeah, Bernie absolutely gets that Manchin and Sinema are the enemy. Like 3/4s of Bernie's former team have been going HARD after those two on twitter and have even quasi defended Biden by pointing out those two are the reason so much is getting stalled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,080 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, PartySick said: Idk, if it was Bernie vs Trump? I feel like Bernie would have won with at least similar margins. Nah, Trump will win 2nd term. At least the electorals will make sure of that. Remember 2016. Bernie and Hillary are the same in that not many in their own camp wanted to side with them. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, LilyLark said: Like 3/4s of Bernie's former team have been going HARD after those two on twitter and have even quasi defended Biden by pointing out those two are the reason so much is getting stalled. I just wish that Biden would slam their asses hard Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,213 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, PartySick said: I just wish that Biden would slam their asses hard IMO From day one, they should have leaned hard on Sinema. A lot of people can primary her and possibly win (such as Gallego). If they had swayed Sinema, they may have been able to get Manchin to stop being such an as* at least on some stuff (clearly not all of it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelusionalGaga 29,717 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 "Why are you trying so hard to pull this country to the left?" The fact that this journalist considers Biden's agenda as far left is truly bizarre when he's as moderate as they come. And the fact that they think Bernie is a socialist when his ideas are the standard in Europe and aren't even contested by conservatives. America is so afraid of "socialism", meanwhile the far-right is chipping away at their democracy every day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Reminder: Every "socialist" democrat has so far backed every (flawed) Biden Bill that he proposed, meanwhile the "mainstream" democrats Sinema & Manchin have singlehandedly rendered Biden useless and torpedoe'd every bill he has presented so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,823 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 lmaoo that interviewer is so iconic and quite the legend alreadyq i love how he pushes the press secretary out of her comfort zone (i forgot her name) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyanderson 379 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, nathantj594 said: Why do you have a but in that sentence? Trump was/is a dumpster fire that burns down half the block and Biden is a napkin that accidentally got caught on fire next to the stove and you put it out in the sink. No comparison. If you truly believe this we might as well all be doomed. Trump and Biden are far more alike than they are dis-alike. Just because Biden talks nicer does not undermine all he has done against and hasn't done for the American people a year into his presidency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyanderson 379 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Meat said: We know he’s not Bernie. That’s why people voted for him The majority of which would not today. Your point is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, luckyanderson said: Your point is? America is not ready for a politician like Bernie. It’s either centre right democrats or Donald Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay23 367 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 “Vote for joe. He’s a good person!” - Lady Gaga ( 2020 ) 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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