Grammys eliminate 33% rule of an Album Of The Year

[Wixson 5,004]

13 minutes ago, SEANGT said:

have you ever seen movie credits? lol. It takes a lot of people to make art sometimes. 

I'm aware of that, but does everyone who worked on a film get a Best Picture nomination? No, they don't. 

[JustTea 6,046]

Well, I guess featuring is getting even more popular now (and Katy could win a Grammy that way)

[Joshua81 266]

3 minutes ago, JustTea said:

Well, I guess featuring is getting even more popular now (and Katy could win a Grammy that way)

Mark me, Nicki Minaj will win a AOTY Grammy every year. 

[ProdigyARTPOP 3,910]

You guys are aware that this is how it has worked in other categories as well? 

[SEANGT 5,296]

10 minutes ago, Wixson said:

I'm aware of that, but does everyone who worked on a film get a Best Picture nomination? No, they don't. 

well, why not? they contributed to the piece of work, which is being rewarded as a whole. I think the grammy's got this right. Idk if we need to make a billion statues but they should all be able to say they won. 

[Wixson 5,004]

8 minutes ago, SEANGT said:

well, why not? they contributed to the piece of work, which is being rewarded as a whole. I think the grammy's got this right. Idk if we need to make a billion statues but they should all be able to say they won. 

You picked a horrible analogy and I just went with it. But there are multiple reasons. First of all - because everyone already has their respective category where they can get recognised for their contributions + no one can take their work away from them, trophy or no trophy - they were a part of the creative team behind it. But also because the award loses its significance. You can literally suggest a lyric change and get credited as an Album of the Year winner, which is not fair to someone who's come up with an overall concept, wrote 15 songs for the album, produced it, sang on it and what not to lose it to somebody I mentioned. 

[SEANGT 5,296]

3 minutes ago, Wixson said:

You picked a horrible analogy and I just went with it. But there are multiple reasons. First of all - because everyone already has their respective category where they can get recognised for their contributions + no one can take their work away from them, trophy or no trophy - they were a part of the creative team behind it. But also because the award loses its significance. You can literally suggest a lyric change and get credited as an Album of the Year winner, which is not fair to someone who's come up with an overall concept, wrote 15 songs for the album, produced it, sang on it and what not to lose it to somebody I mentioned. 

okay, I mean I don't really care that much about this, I didn't want to make you feel like we're arguing, I'm sorry. I just disagree. I don't think it really changes the significance for the people that did more work if people that did less work get the same award. You know what you did. An album is worked on by a huge number of people. Even a tiny contribution can be a huge deal in a piece of art IMO. 

[thehanyo 4,251]

24 minutes ago, Wixson said:

I'm aware of that, but does everyone who worked on a film get a Best Picture nomination? No, they don't. 

Exactly, only the producing team can win Best Picture. Even the director of a movie doesn't get a statuette if their movie wins Best Picture.

[highlikegaga 9,099]

wait. so if L4S wins AOTY, Gaga won't get the award?!?

[Teletubby 150,022]

Cirkut is credited as producer of Hurricane on Kanye West's Donda but I can't find him on the list of nominated 

Donda
Baby Keem, Chris Brown, Conway The Machine, DaBaby, Jay Electronica, Fivio Foreign, Westside Gunn, JAY-Z, Syleena Johnson, Kid Cudi, Lil Baby, Lil Durk, Lil Yachty, The LOX, Marilyn Manson, Playboi Carti, Pop Smoke, Roddy Ricch, Rooga, Travis Scott, Shenseea, Swizz Beatz, Young Thug, Don Toliver, Ty Dolla $ign, Vory, The Weeknd, Westside Gunn & Lil Yachty, featured artists; Allday, Audi, AyoAA, Roark Bailey, Louis Bell, Jeff Bhasker, Boi-1Da, BoogzDaBeast, Warryn Campbell, Cubeatz, David & Eli, Mike Dean, Dem Jointz, Digital Nas, DJ Khalil, DRTWRK, 88-Keys, E.Vax, FNZ, Gesaffelstein, Nikki Grier, Cory Henry, Ronny J, DJ Khalil, Wallis Lane, Digital Nas, Nascent, Ojivolta, Shuko, Sloane, Sean Solymar, Sucuki, Arron “Arrow” Sunday, Swizz Beatz, Zen Tachi, 30 Roc, Bastian Völkel, Mia Wallis, Kanye West, Wheezy & Jason White, producers; Josh Berg, Todd Bergman, Rashade Benani Bevel Sr., Will Chason, Dem Jointz, IRKO, Jess Jackson, Nagaris Johnson, Shin Kamiyama, Gimel "Young Guru" Keaton, James Kelso, Scott McDowell, Kalam Ali Muttalib, Jonathan Pfarr, Jonathan Pfzar, Drrique Rendeer, Alejandro Rodriguez-Dawson, Mikalai Skrobat, Devon Wilson & Lorenzo Wolff, engineers/mixers; Dwayne Abernathy Jr., Elpadaro F. Electronica Allah, Aswad Asif, Roark Bailey, Durk Banks, Sam Barsh, Christoph Bauss, Louis Bell, Jeff Bhasker, Isaac De Boni, Christopher Brown, Jahshua Brown, Tahrence Brown, Aaron Butts, Warryn Campbell, Hykeem Carter Jr., Jordan Terrell Carter, Shawn Carter, Denzel Charles, Raul Cubina, Isaac De Boni, Kasseem Dean, Michael Dean, Tim Friedrich, Wesley Glass, Samuel Gloade, Kevin Gomringer, Tim Gomringer, Tyrone Griffin Jr., Jahmal Gwin, Cory Henry, Tavoris Javon Hollins Jr., Larry Hoover Jr., Bashar Jackson, Sean Jacob, Nima Jahanbin, Paimon Jahanbin, Syleena Johnson, Dominique Armani Jones, Eli Klughammer, Chinsea Lee, Mike Lévy, Evan Mast, Mark Mbogo, Miles McCollum, Josh Mease, Scott Medcudi, Brian Miller, Rodrick Wayne Moore Jr., Michael Mulé, Mark Myrie, Charles M. Njapa, Nasir Pemberton, Carlos St. John Phillips, Jason Phillips, Khalil Abdul Rahman, Laraya Ashlee Robinson, Christopher Ruelas, David Ruoff, Maxie Lee Ryles III, Matthew Samuels, Daniel Seeff, Eric Sloan Jr., Sean Solymar, Ronald O’Neill Spence Jr., David Styles, Michael Suski, Aqeel Tate, Abel Makkonen Tesfaye, Caleb Zackery Toliver, Bastian Völkel, Brian Hugh Warner, Jacques Webster II, Kanye West, Orlando Wilder, Jeffery Williams & Mark Williams, songwriters; Irko, mastering engineer

[Pennywise 36,079]

2 minutes ago, Teletubby said:

Cirkut is credited as producer of Hurricane on Kanye West's Donda but I can't find him on the list of nominated 

Donda
Baby Keem, Chris Brown, Conway The Machine, DaBaby, Jay Electronica, Fivio Foreign, Westside Gunn, JAY-Z, Syleena Johnson, Kid Cudi, Lil Baby, Lil Durk, Lil Yachty, The LOX, Marilyn Manson, Playboi Carti, Pop Smoke, Roddy Ricch, Rooga, Travis Scott, Shenseea, Swizz Beatz, Young Thug, Don Toliver, Ty Dolla $ign, Vory, The Weeknd, Westside Gunn & Lil Yachty, featured artists; Allday, Audi, AyoAA, Roark Bailey, Louis Bell, Jeff Bhasker, Boi-1Da, BoogzDaBeast, Warryn Campbell, Cubeatz, David & Eli, Mike Dean, Dem Jointz, Digital Nas, DJ Khalil, DRTWRK, 88-Keys, E.Vax, FNZ, Gesaffelstein, Nikki Grier, Cory Henry, Ronny J, DJ Khalil, Wallis Lane, Digital Nas, Nascent, Ojivolta, Shuko, Sloane, Sean Solymar, Sucuki, Arron “Arrow” Sunday, Swizz Beatz, Zen Tachi, 30 Roc, Bastian Völkel, Mia Wallis, Kanye West, Wheezy & Jason White, producers; Josh Berg, Todd Bergman, Rashade Benani Bevel Sr., Will Chason, Dem Jointz, IRKO, Jess Jackson, Nagaris Johnson, Shin Kamiyama, Gimel "Young Guru" Keaton, James Kelso, Scott McDowell, Kalam Ali Muttalib, Jonathan Pfarr, Jonathan Pfzar, Drrique Rendeer, Alejandro Rodriguez-Dawson, Mikalai Skrobat, Devon Wilson & Lorenzo Wolff, engineers/mixers; Dwayne Abernathy Jr., Elpadaro F. Electronica Allah, Aswad Asif, Roark Bailey, Durk Banks, Sam Barsh, Christoph Bauss, Louis Bell, Jeff Bhasker, Isaac De Boni, Christopher Brown, Jahshua Brown, Tahrence Brown, Aaron Butts, Warryn Campbell, Hykeem Carter Jr., Jordan Terrell Carter, Shawn Carter, Denzel Charles, Raul Cubina, Isaac De Boni, Kasseem Dean, Michael Dean, Tim Friedrich, Wesley Glass, Samuel Gloade, Kevin Gomringer, Tim Gomringer, Tyrone Griffin Jr., Jahmal Gwin, Cory Henry, Tavoris Javon Hollins Jr., Larry Hoover Jr., Bashar Jackson, Sean Jacob, Nima Jahanbin, Paimon Jahanbin, Syleena Johnson, Dominique Armani Jones, Eli Klughammer, Chinsea Lee, Mike Lévy, Evan Mast, Mark Mbogo, Miles McCollum, Josh Mease, Scott Medcudi, Brian Miller, Rodrick Wayne Moore Jr., Michael Mulé, Mark Myrie, Charles M. Njapa, Nasir Pemberton, Carlos St. John Phillips, Jason Phillips, Khalil Abdul Rahman, Laraya Ashlee Robinson, Christopher Ruelas, David Ruoff, Maxie Lee Ryles III, Matthew Samuels, Daniel Seeff, Eric Sloan Jr., Sean Solymar, Ronald O’Neill Spence Jr., David Styles, Michael Suski, Aqeel Tate, Abel Makkonen Tesfaye, Caleb Zackery Toliver, Bastian Völkel, Brian Hugh Warner, Jacques Webster II, Kanye West, Orlando Wilder, Jeffery Williams & Mark Williams, songwriters; Irko, mastering engineer

Sis good luck finding anything from that list what the **** is that 

[Teletubby 150,022]

1 minute ago, highlikegaga said:

wait. so if L4S wins AOTY, Gaga won't get the award?!?

She will get the award. 
AOTY is for Artist(s) and Featured Artist(s), Songwriter(s) of new material, Producer(s), Recording Engineer(s), Mixer(s) and Mastering Engineer(s). They eliminated 33% playing time rule and now more artists/songwriters/producers will get this awards.

[Teletubby 150,022]

Just now, Pennywise said:

Sis good luck finding anything from that list what the **** is that 

this is list of people who worked on Kanye West's Donda and are nominated to AOTY.
wait till Beyonce will get her nomination

 

[Wixson 5,004]

46 minutes ago, SEANGT said:

okay, I mean I don't really care that much about this, I didn't want to make you feel like we're arguing, I'm sorry. I just disagree. I don't think it really changes the significance for the people that did more work if people that did less work get the same award. You know what you did. An album is worked on by a huge number of people. Even a tiny contribution can be a huge deal in a piece of art IMO. 

Yeah, sure. As they say, to each their own! 

[Teletubby 150,022]

1 hour ago, AnglerfishbraBENUS said:

it’s gonna go to billie, olivia, or Gaga. the grammys are not gonna make 400 statuettes for 1 album.

my money is on Olivia because Taylor would still win a grammy that way and be a 4 time album of the year winner 💀

I think they won't give it to woman this year, Taylor won last year and Adele will win in 2023