Rebel 5,221 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, JusKeepBreathin said: The delision of some Madonna haters thinking that they can spew this hate on Madonna about the 9-5 hrs when she at least paid all the workers. At least Madonna wasn't taken to court by the employees. I mean even Bernie Sanders had to negotiate with a labor union because of his lack of payment to union employees of his campaign and Lady Gaga have been taken to court by an employee who wasn't paid their overtime by FLSA standards. Gaga even had to settle because she wasn't going to win. In a deposition, Gaga unleashed her anger on her ex-assistant. O’Neill was a “f—ing hood rat who is suing me for money that she didn’t earn,” said Gaga, adding that O’Neill “deserves every dollar of her $75,000 that we agreed to. But she does not deserve a penny more.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/lady-gaga-settles-personal-assistants-649853/amp/ U sound hurt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Rebel said: U sound hurt Maybe it's because I'm a hood rat. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 4,957 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, HuffsAhoy said: Imagine thinking a woman that literally birth pop culture as we know it and has been in the industry for 40 years isn't smart She also thinks it's OK to use the n-word because she adopted a black child and shot an album cover in blackface. So, you know. Take her with a grain of salt there maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Not a near billionaire railing against unions. Not supporting antivaxxers for “disturbing the peace.” She has LOST IT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf 1,328 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Rebel said: The way people think about the pandemic, for instance, that the vaccination is the only answer or the polarization of thinking you’re either on this side or the other. There’s no debate, there’s no discussion. That’s something I want to disturb. I want to disturb the fact that we’re not encouraged to discuss it. I believe that our job is to disturb the status quo. The censoring that’s going on in the world right now, that’s pretty frightening. No one’s allowed to speak their mind right now. No one’s allowed to say what they really think about things for fear of being canceled, cancel culture. In cancel culture, disturbing the peace is probably an act of treason. Disturbing the status quo just for the sake of disturbing the status quo, I mean, are you really fighting for something or just making thoughtless noise? People are allowed to speak their mind, but it's not a discussion when actual lives are on the line and vaccines are literally saving people, with no credible evidence proving otherwise. Some people clearly don't know the difference between free speech and misinformation/disinformation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacs vs looser 4,382 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I love Madonna, and I think she's a very smart person over all, but no one in the world can be 100% right 100% of the time. The things I disagree with are: 1 - Thinking that it should be super easy to simply change theater hours, affecting many people, because she as an individual feels "people are more mentally connected" later in the day. Who works 9 to 5? In reality, most people, whose lives are not just work and whose schedules revolve around that. It isn't nearly as simple. 2 - "There’s no debate, there’s no discussion" ... there is, there has been a lot of debate and discussion WITHIN the scientific community, thanks to which we have a vaccine, and we have learned better how the virus works, mortality rates have dropped and it seems like we're closer than ever to reducing COVID to a seasonal disease. The problem with such broad statement, which is not only hers by the way, is that it covers conspirational lunatists, people who barely finished highschool and others to the level of people who are actually educated on the subject matter. If we were talking about whether the earth is round or if we landed on the moon, it'd be an annoyance but that's it; however, the problem is that the spread of missinformation this time around might potentially be costing lives. Also "No one’s allowed to speak their mind right now"? Yes they are, they always have been. It's just that they are barely learning that freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence. All that being said, I do agree with the sentiment of disturbing the Status Quo to some extent, and I 100% agree that "cancel culture" is out of hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 13,534 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Frank Potion said: Not a near billionaire railing against unions. What is with people on the left thinking stuff like this? The difference here is how she is NOT using her wealth to hurt other people, unlike people like Elon Musk. (Not so) Fun Fact: Saying stuff like this is exactly why Trump won, because us on the left can't be bothered to align over anything. Do better. he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohnana 31 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Here the thing: you can say whatever you want (that is literally a fact) but there are consequences to what you say. Everyone is entittled to their own opinions but as society we have become more aware of how our words can affect others. So Madonna is wrong when saying people are being "censored" because we know FoxNews exits and they say crazy stuff ALL THE TIME but if Madonna thinks that people should go in life saying whatever the F they want without any ramifications than she is obviously showing her lack of intelligence and understanding of the power that words have and even more so words coming out of the mouths of influencial people. Stop calling cancel culture, it's consequence culture which celebrites and normal people should be held accountable to. Sadly people like Madonna herself can say whatever they want and their lives remain partially the same, while regular people lose their jobs and livelihoods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, 27monster27 said: What is with people on the left thinking stuff like this? The difference here is how she is NOT using her wealth to hurt other people, unlike people like Elon Musk. (Not so) Fun Fact: Saying stuff like this is exactly why Trump won, because us on the left can't be bothered to align over anything. Do better. She is tone deaf, out of touch, and her need to put herself first in any situation whether it is belittling unions or supporting antivaxxers is disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 13,534 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Frank Potion said: She is tone deaf, out of touch, and her need to put herself first in any situation whether it is belittling unions or supporting antivaxxers is disgusting. Stop saying that women aren't allowed to put themselves in situations. Y'all did it with her back in 2003, with Katy Perry in 2017, and (most) Britney Fans did it with Lady Gaga earlier this year. I don't agree with Madonna's vaccination opinion, but women are allowed to have a say in political and economic issues. he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel 5,221 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, 27monster27 said: Saying stuff like this is exactly why Trump won Y’all don’t get tired of saying this lie every time the left has something to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 13,534 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Rebel said: Y’all don’t get tired of saying this lie every time the left has something to say I'm not wrong that the left is fragmented, and I say this as someone who firmly despises Trump, and is on the left as well. he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, 27monster27 said: Stop saying that women aren't allowed to put themselves in situations. Y'all did it with her back in 2003, with Katy Perry in 2017, and (most) Britney Fans did it with Lady Gaga earlier this year. I don't agree with Madonna's vaccination opinion, but women are allowed to have a say in political and economic issues. So I should agree with her political views because otherwise Trump is gonna win again? When I can’t tell her views apart from a Trumper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohnana 31 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, Frank Potion said: She is tone deaf, out of touch, and her need to put herself first in any situation whether it is belittling unions or supporting antivaxxers is disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 13,534 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Frank Potion said: So I should agree with her political views because otherwise Trump is gonna win again? When I can’t tell her views apart from a Trumper? Okay, let me rephrase. Don't agree if you like, but I am saying that this is part of a larger issue. The left literally is fragmented so much, and people can't agree with anyone on anything. The DNC shares a massive part of the blame considering how they like to favor corporations. I mean, she is openly anti-war. Comparing that to the reactions of Trumpets when we almost started a war in Iran in January 2020 shows quite a large difference. That, including her opinions on sex, and on the difference in people's sexualities, should show a lot. Like I said, I don't agree with all of her opinions, but telling that she has lost it is not okay. Say that to people like Candace Owens who literally spew homophobic bullsh!t all because they chose to grift for money. I apologize for going in aggressive, but I am so tired of seeing women get hated. People still hate Britney even after everything that has come out, people are ageist against Cher and Madonna, people literally call Lady Gaga's activism attention seeking and fake. I am sorry for being so upset, but it just infuriates me. he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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