gothicdream 39,660 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Esteban said: Sanctioning a state is sanctioning every people in it. That's wrong to think money is above anything, because while money comes and goes, states ideologies stay and hate will grow and will become stronger as if it's their only remaining identity. Majority of people go where the wind goes, they aren't good or bad, just uneducated and they can change their mind easily. For example they decide for who to vote at the last minute. These people ARE the people no matter what we think. We have to focus on them, the mass, the lost sheeps. Punish them and sanctioning them economically in the name of progressism and because of decisions of their leadership is a bad idea. Short-circuiting them economically is short-termism, resentment and division will only be stronger... We have to work deeply with this people for a long term efficiency. I think we're having two different conversations here, one about how American people interact with each other on a personal level, and another about how our politicians and governments interact and do business with each other. I see some of your points if we're talking about everyday Americans discussing these issues with each other. Of course in that case it would be ideal to simply be able to educate and talk through things and come to consensus (although it is MUCH more difficult to change hateful people's minds and hearts than you are giving credit for). However, in this case, we're talking politicians and governments. Their language is money, so their negotiating tactic is to put economic pressure on the situation to try to force change. Both of these strategies can happen at once, just like how the federal government conducts discussions with North Korea but also imposes strong economic sanctions against them. Talk alone is not enough. Beyond strategies for change, there is also a matter of personal safety here. If a state introduces a law that would threaten the safety of California state government employees who may be traveling there (in this case, LGBTQ+ employees), of course California is no longer going to ask their employees to travel there or pay for it. It's the same idea as Salesforce offering to relocate any Texas employees and their families due to the new restrictions on women's access to healthcare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Tinnitus15 said: You know that America is the most LGBTQ+ friendly…Event most of Europe is homophobic,Asia too,so that means banning state-funded travel to 90% of the world If that's what it takes for the message to get across, so be it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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