*SPOILERS AHEAD* Your All Stars 6 Winner?

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Just now, ManuelColon said:

Gottmik was the first trans man, but the first trans woman to compete while being openly trans was Peppermint or Gia I think, aside from Kylie and Monica who came out during the show. 

Peppermint auditioned not as a trans woman as I remember, I think she came out after the show, because production wasn’t really into letting trans girls competing at that time sadly 

Gia was on all stars, I was talking about regular seasons, but you'r right 

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i would actually be happy with any of them, but would prefer Ra’jah

 

i think they filmed every possible outcome though

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I do think there is a bias against plus size queens from the fanbase, Ginger has been consistently good this season and just for that she would be a nice winner, Eureka besides her elimination has also been very consistent, Ra'jah is the 100% full package winner, but Ging would be a great alternative based on challenges and people are trying so hard to discredit that because she's not very fashionable and has a different personality than what they like, but everyone that watches the show can see that Ginger has done amazingly.

In past seasons the issue is that some of the big girls tend to do bad and get eliminated early like Porkchop, Mystique, Stacy, Mimi, Madame, Delta, Penny, and more, but when they do good and go far they still have to prove themselves more than other queens would. Ginger would have been such a good winner in season 7 too, but people just didn't like her much back then and some still act like she did bad or has done bad on her three seasons run.

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13 minutes ago, ororo munroe said:

Peppermint auditioned not as a trans woman as I remember, I think she came out after the show, because production wasn’t really into letting trans girls competing at that time sadly 

Gia was on all stars, I was talking about regular seasons, but you'r right 

Peppermint came out I think during the filming on the show to her castmates and the story/narrator producer (the one you talk to in the interview)

Gia, on the other hand, I'd like to see and know what really went down on AS4 because many people (herself included) said she had a very heated discussion with Ru on the runway but it wasn't aired and little tea was spilled about it. Allegedly Gia called Ru out on what he said about-

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28 minutes ago, RichAssPiss said:

There are four finalists. The two thin ones are the favorites. Everyone is fatphobic. It's like racism and misogyny. It's ingrained in culture. Insisting no one is affected by it is just making a list of reasons why you can ignore bias. It's like saying maybe there just has never been a Black director who deserved to win Best Director at the Oscars in over 90 years. Because none has. "Well, you see there are all these other reasons..." No. It's a mortifying stat that reveals an implicat bias. 19 winners in Drag Race and no fat winners. And when fat people make the finale they are never the fan favorite. And the favorite is always a thin queen. It's a mortifying stat that reveals implicit bias. 

No where have I said no one is getting affected by fatphobia. And everyone here is mostly agreeing with you.

If you are bringing stats into the equation then, there have been 16 plus size queens out of 166 queens in 13 seasons of Drag Race US. Out of which Latrice, Nina West have been Miss Congenialities. Latrice was fan voted. 

The only time fatphobia was most rampant, was when Ginger lost S7, probably because of the fan votes on social media. But even then Ginger had 2 bottom 2's. Violet had none.

In S8, Kim Chi was the most liked, and most voted queen out of the 3 finalists on social media and probably of the whole season. She was polling way ahead of Bob and Naomi. So if it was left upto fans she would have won.

Eureka and Silky were not fan favourites to begin with, I agree. But S10, S11 had been lipsyncs for the crown, where the plus size queens lost the lipsync in the final. So we can't call it unfair.

We all know that fatphobia exists, racism exists, transphobia exists. But to call everyone that, because they might be supporting else, isn't right in my book. You cannot put everyone in that category. That's judgement coming from your side too then. And I personally do not take such accusations lightly.

As the numbers show, hopefully they will include more plus size queens in the next seasons. Especially like AS6 where there were 4 such queens, and 2 of them made the finale. And one of them gave us one of the best episodes of drag race ever. If you are dwelling so much on fan reception, then I suggest you to go on Silky's social media and check out the amount of love and praise and respect she is getting now.

So instead of telling us we are wrong for supporting a non plus size queen, maybe we can put that effort for more such queens getting their due representation on the show and possibly better production edits.

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2 minutes ago, CyanDante said:

No where have I said no one is getting affected by fatphobia. And everyone here is mostly agreeing with you.

If you are bringing stats into the equation then, there have been 16 plus size queens out of 166 queens in 13 seasons of Drag Race US. Out of which Latrice, Nina West have been Miss Congenialities. Latrice was fan voted. 

The only time fatphobia was most rampant, was when Ginger lost S7, probably because of the fan votes on social media. But even then Ginger had 2 bottom 2's. Violet had none.

In S8, Kim Chi was the most liked, and most voted queen out of the 3 finalists on social media and probably of the whole season. She was polling way ahead of Bob and Naomi. So if it was left upto fans she would have won.

Eureka and Silky were not fan favourites to begin with, I agree. But S10, S11 had been lipsyncs for the crown, where the plus size queens lost the lipsync in the final. So we can't call it unfair.

We all know that fatphobia exists, racism exists, transphobia exists. But to call everyone that, because they might be supporting else, isn't right in my book. You cannot put everyone in that category. That's judgement coming from your side too then. And I personally do not take such accusations lightly.

As the numbers show, hopefully they will include more plus size queens in the next seasons. Especially like AS6 where there were 4 such queens, and 2 of them made the finale. And one of them gave us one of the best episodes of drag race ever. If you are dwelling so much on fan reception, then I suggest you to go on Silky's social media and check out the amount of love and praise and respect she is getting now.

So instead of telling us we are wrong for supporting a non plus size queen, maybe we can put that effort for more such queens getting their due representation on the show and possibly better production edits.

This is not helpful at all. No one needs stats on why fatphobia isn't an issue. Because you can name some popular fat queens. That does so much more harm than good. And if that's what you're interested in, then you dont really care. So stop saying you do. 

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8 minutes ago, COOOK said:

Peppermint came out I think during the filming on the show to her castmates and the story/narrator producer (the one you talk to in the interview)

Gia, on the other hand, I'd like to see and know what really went down on AS4 because many people (herself included) said she had a very heated discussion with Ru on the runway but it wasn't aired and little tea was spilled about it. Allegedly Gia called Ru out on what he said about-

Yes, thank you! I just wanted to say that trans girls weren’t there for every regular season 

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Ra'Jah isn't my favorite, but she was the most entertaining and did the best so I choose her 

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4 minutes ago, RichAssPiss said:

This is not helpful at all. No one needs stats on why fatphobia isn't an issue. Because you can name some popular fat queens. That does so much more harm than good. And if that's what you're interested in, then you dont really care. So stop saying you do. 

Good for you sis. Keep fighting the good battle and hope you find success in your endeavours. 

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Ginger struggled many episodes and her fashions choices went all across decent to abismal.

Kylie did good but she was always upstaged by someone else.

Eureka is disliked by the entirety of the fanbase, which I don't understand.

So yeah I pick Ra'Jah, she's been consistently great from episode one and I think production wants her to win too.

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I think they're all good. I'm leaning Ginger, but will burn two candles for Kylie.

Also, livid AF that they did my girls Jan and TKB dirty. That Telephone tour they're planning will make up for it though.

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I like all 4 of them and think all are deserving winners, but I have a soft spot for Ra'Jah

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I can't believe at first I thought this was the weakest cast ever and now I have to swallow my words... This is one of the best top4 ever! They all improved so much from their respective seasons, so it's too hard for decide for me. Kylie is lovely, Ginger is funny and Ra'jah is so stylish and changed so much from her original season! Eureka can be number 4 

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29 minutes ago, bloody grammys said:

Eureka is disliked by the entirety of the fanbase, which I don't understand.

Is her saying the n word repeatedly on camera not enough? 

She did redeem herself this season in my eyes though, unlike season 9-10 when she was so preoccupied with being liked by everyone, here she really was herself and she was a joy to watch

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20 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

Is her saying the n word repeatedly on camera not enough? 

She did redeem herself this season in my eyes though, unlike season 9-10 when she was so preoccupied with being liked by everyone, here she really was herself and she was a joy to watch

well TKB called cis women real women several times. I know it's not comparable but the Eureka video was almost 10 years ago and TKB's transphobic remarks were just two years ago. Also TKB arguably got the most support from fans this season...