BUtterfield 8 41,660 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 30,488 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Why does everybody put these kind of terms between quotation marks as if they weren't real. Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia 1,366 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jill said: Why does everybody put these kind of terms between quotation marks as if they weren't real. Because English — and you should know this, Jill, as a diplomat. Someone that is not familiar with the term might confuse the sentence in strange ways i.e.: ”Halsey reflected on growing up white, passing in a mixed-race family” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 30,488 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, ultravanister said: Because English — and you should know this, Jill, as a diplomat. Someone that is not familiar with the term might confuse the sentence in strange ways i.e.: ”Halsey reflected on growing up white, passing in a mixed race” There is no comma there, and you could still write it as white-passing to differentiate it and add clarity. There's no reason for the quotation marks in this case. Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty Please 634 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Jill said: There is no comma there, and you could still write it as white-passing to differentiate it and add clarity. There's no reason for the quotation marks in this case. The quotes are there to say that thats a term she used not a term used by the publication to describe her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspiria 10,683 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Jill said: Why does everybody put these kind of terms between quotation marks as if they weren't real. I think it's more to do with the fact it's subjective. Some people might say she isn't white passing, so they use the quotation marks to show it's something she described herself as and not something the writer said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neroneau 1,017 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Jill said: There is no comma there, and you could still write it as white-passing to differentiate it and add clarity. There's no reason for the quotation marks in this case. Calm down from this site always being so stressed about everyone here it’s raining a lot over here so I get ur bored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Pretty Please said: The quotes are there to say that thats a term she used not a term used by the publication to describe her This. They used it because it was directly quoted from her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 56,763 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I will never not be amazed that the mixed person here is the one on the left and not right: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 55 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: I will never not be amazed that the mixed person here is the one on the left and not right: If you wanna get technical: Ariana's family originated from Sicily in Italy, which historically has been subjected to waves of migration and being annexed by it's surrounding neighbors because of it's central position in the Mediterrenean Sea. Most of Sicily has a mixed heritage of Italians, Arabs and Berbers (indigenous North Africans, before the Arabs conquered the region). Ariana previously mentioned taking a DNA test and finding out that she has a significant amount of North African heritage (presumably Tunesian Berber). She's mixed, just not... black lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciGa 3,729 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Supersonic said: If you wanna get technical: Ariana's family originated from Sicily in Italy, which historically has been subjected to waves of migration and being annexed by it's surrounding neighbors because of it's central position in the Mediterrenean Sea. Most of Sicily has a mixed heritage of Italians, Arabs and Berbers (indigenous North Africans, before the Arabs conquered the region). Ariana previously mentioned taking a DNA test and finding out that she has a significant amount of North African heritage (presumably Tunesian Berber). She's mixed, just not... black lol. Its called fake tan - shade dark! 😇 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 56,763 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Supersonic said: If you wanna get technical: Ariana's family originated from Sicily in Italy, which historically has been subjected to waves of migration and being annexed by it's surrounding neighbors because of it's central position in the Mediterrenean Sea. Most of Sicily has a mixed heritage of Italians, Arabs and Berbers (indigenous North Africans, before the Arabs conquered the region). Ariana previously mentioned taking a DNA test and finding out that she has a significant amount of North African heritage (presumably Tunesian Berber). She's mixed, just not... black lol. I know that! The distinction between the black and white races is blurry in Southern Europe, Northern Africa, Ethiopia and the Middle East. Some genetic studies even found African admixture in places as north as present-day Bulgaria. It's basically a gradient and southern Italy has a great influence from Africa.. but to me it still feels weird to call Southern Italians mixed. I don't doubt that she has African genes but still I wouldn't go as far as saying that she is mixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariana Grindr 3,173 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: I will never not be amazed that the mixed person here is the one on the left and not right: Yuh, yuh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 5,953 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, GucciGa said: Its called fake tan - shade dark! You could also read a book and actually educate yourself instead of giving in to stan Twitter mentality. My sister is blonde, blue eyed, pale skin and I have more of Ari's skintone (to the ligher side but still darker than my sister) with brown hair and green eyes. We both have the same parents from different backgrounds and my hertiage is close to that area, southern Europe. These situations are very much real, I hardly believe she is fake tanned as she has always looked like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 56,763 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Debithius said: she has always looked like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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