Bradley 59,199 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 15 hours ago, Grigio Guy said: But I thought Billie was the next Gaga? OT: it’s unfortunate to see such a fan base be quick to turn on a fave, but it’s their money! I only preorder when I can tell right away I’m gonna like the album (IE Halsey’s LP4) Gaga never whispered her vocals tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,936 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, thehanyo said: I think it's the opposite. She WAS unique and now everything she's been doing in this new era has been predictable and boring. Like she turns 18 and sheds her alt look, dyes her hair blonde and starts showing off her tits wearing Kim K underwear? She abandoned EVERYTHING that made her interesting and unique. She's no longer an idol for people who feel like outcasts... she's literally the popular mean girl now. That being said, I think NDA is a bit of a return to what made her interesting, but I think it's too late. The levels of misogyny in this reply... she never claimed to be anything and she's free to do whatever tf she wants with her body and image. She literally abandoned nothing and is still fully herself but y'all are too shallow to see beyond a couple of photos she published. I know it's groundbreaking information but people grow, especially at her age. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 15 hours ago, PlastiscGuy said: I sill care about Billie tho, sad she's going through this Same. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, alsemanche said: The levels of misogyny in this reply... she never claimed to be anything and she's free to do whatever tf she wants with her body and image. She literally abandoned nothing and is still fully herself but y'all are too shallow to see beyond a couple of photos she published. I know it's groundbreaking information but people grow, especially at her age. I do get where they're coming from though. It can be hard to vibe with an artist when they change in such a big way. What was appealing about Billie was the oversized clothing and the "I'm not going to conform and be like other girls" kind of attitude and now it feels like she's changed. I do understand that she's grown up and she's expressing her femininity in a new way and I respect that, but the things that made her unique don't seem to be there anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Tayko said: She try SO HARD to be unique it feels forced AF Just like Ava Max and her haircut I actually feel like her image change flipped that completely. She went from being a girl you'd see in Hot Topic to a blonde popstar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, alsemanche said: The levels of misogyny in this reply... she never claimed to be anything and she's free to do whatever tf she wants with her body and image. She literally abandoned nothing and is still fully herself but y'all are too shallow to see beyond a couple of photos she published. I know it's groundbreaking information but people grow, especially at her age. This is a rude and baseless accusation. She is absolutely allowed to grow and change her approach to sexuality... who is saying she can't? But you can't fault people for finding the person on the left more appealing or relatable than the person on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Glamourpuss said: It can be hard to vibe with an artist when they change in such a big way. What was appealing about Billie was the oversized clothing and the "I'm not going to conform and be like other girls" kind of attitude and now it feels like she's changed. She never had that attitude though and her fans know it. This is not an Avril Lavigne situation, Billie spoke about wanting to wear sexy clothes and be desirable for years. This was an interlude on her first world tour: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, thehanyo said: This is a rude and baseless accusation. She is absolutely allowed to grow and change her approach to sexuality... who is saying she can't? But you can't fault people for finding the person on the left more appealing or relatable than the person on the right. I'm sorry but you are just proving their point. You could have at least posted the Vogue shoot... but the only difference between two pictures you chose is that you can see Billie's breasts in the right one. That's like... posting pictures of Adam Levine with his shirt on and off and saying he changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Admin said: I'm sorry but you are just proving their point. You could have at least posted the Vogue shoot... but the only difference between two pictures you chose is that you can see Billie's breasts in the right one. That's like... posting pictures of Adam Levine with his shirt on and off and saying he changed. You think this image supports your case? It's not about how much skin she is showing. It's a total image and vibe change. Gaga never changed who she was throughout her evolution... even with Tony she kept her brand and identity in tact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusel 1,109 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, thehanyo said: You think this image supports your case? It's not about how much skin she is showing. It's a total image and vibe change. Gaga never changed who she was throughout her evolution... even with Tony she kept her brand and identity in tact. gaga switched her entire aesthetic from the fame to the fame monster what are you even talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Fusel said: gaga switched her entire aesthetic from the fame to the fame monster what are you even talking about? She's always had bold visuals, over-the-top theatrics, and emphasis on technology. Changing eras and aesthetics isn't the same as changing identity or brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, thehanyo said: You think this image supports your case? It's not about how much skin she is showing. It's a total image and vibe change. Gaga never changed who she was throughout her evolution... even with Tony she kept her brand and identity in tact. It's one photoshoot. This is Billie's latest music video: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Admin said: It's one photoshoot. This is Billie's latest music video: I've said since Thursday on this forum that I love the new song and video. It feels like a return to what made her interesting to me, but I'm afraid it's coming too late and feels disjointed from the rest of this era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,936 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, thehanyo said: This is a rude and baseless accusation. She is absolutely allowed to grow and change her approach to sexuality... who is saying she can't? But you can't fault people for finding the person on the left more appealing or relatable than the person on the right. you're literally proving my point by showcasing even more misogyny?? Literally what is the problem with her "showing off her tits"? How does that make her any more or less interesting? It's not her fault that people only want to listen to a depressed teenager sing about suicide and depression and then stop being interesting as soon as she shows one inch of skin (the same skin that they were cheering for her for when she made her short film during the previous album era). If you think the person on the left is automatically more interesting than the one on the right and that you can't blame people for thinking that, then that your problem and you need to re-evaluate your ideals. 16 minutes ago, thehanyo said: It's a total image and vibe change. Yeah which is exactly what everyone has been screaming for her to do because apparently her previous "image and vibe" were getting "boring". But somehow at the same time now people are annoyed by how she's still making the same music... idk what y'all want from her at this point lmao. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusel 1,109 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 still think there's a level of misogyny in the grander discourse of the backlash she's receiving people can deny that all they want, but it's clearly noticeable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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