Olivia on track for second #1

[littlepotter 75,093]

The Fame is shakingggg

[StrawberryBlond 14,822]

1 hour ago, Phlop said:

Exactly. Her story is sus, because I didn’t even realize that HSM show was that big, I never hear anyone talk about it or mentioned online. And like you said her debut album coming sooo soon, while other news artists take forever for their debut (Ava Max for example).

Whats weirder is DL was her first song EVER. No EPs, mixtapes, nothing beforehand. Even Billie Eilish had LPs before her first album.

She legit came out of no where. It makes you wonder what kinda funding she’s getting and where it’s coming from, especially when she works for Disney.

Yeah, had no idea there was an HSM spin-off. That's why when I heard people say she was part of HSM, I was thinking, what? She was about 4 when that came out! Clearly, this is something very niche that was aimed strictly at the young ground with older people having no idea of its existence. I have no idea of who any of the current Disney stars are. I, along with the rest of the world, stopped caring post-Miley/Demi/Selena. Didn't even know being a Disney star was still a thing the corporation did. It seems that you really have to work for your music career now, especially if you're female. Labels are terrified of taking a risk on a new name and that's why they make them prove their worth with a lot of singles first. They won't want to spend money funding you to create an album that may not sell. It's frustrating for the artist who just wants to hit the ground running but it's just the way of things. It doesn't even matter if you get a #1, you need to do more to prove it wasn't a fluke before you're allowed to proceed any further with an album. How Olivia bypassed all this is highly suspicious. And considering she's on Interscope, I think now we can further see why Gaga's been quite quiet this year. The majority of funding, promotion and attention is probably going towards Olivia. Which means we may get something new from Gaga once Sour is eventually released but we'll see.

51 minutes ago, Jose P said:

Driver’s License was not her first song ever, one of her HSM songs was certified Gold in the US previously.

I know, but it was only known to the young fans of this show. The rest of the world didn't know or care. Those Disney songs aren't even on her official Vevo account as they're seen as property of Disney. That's why Driver's License is on record as her official debut single. It's her first one as a proper soloist without the Disney name attached.

38 minutes ago, RahrahWitch said:

Depends on what you consider an industry plant. I don't think she's hiding the fact that she had massive connections and it's nothing we haven't seen before like with Miley, Demi, Selena and the Jonas Brothers. Disney love to try make pop stars 

I do think the whole Love Triangle drama stuff was pushed hard by their teams it was almost funny 

I'd consider it to be someone who really fits what a label wants in their next big star. When they find who they want, they want them to "happen" so badly that they put promote them all over Spotify, use payola for radio and basically do everything in their power to make it work for an artist that no one's heard of yet. Basically, it was mapped out for them to be a hit and it's like they weren't a success because the public liked them, they're a success because that's what was meant to be. It's always weird when a singer comes out of nowhere with no established fanbase or independent releases and gets a #1 in their debut week. If no one knows of them, how did they discover the song?

33 minutes ago, Rahrahbitchson said:

Well is not that is so difficult to get a #1 on Hot 100 or a Top 10, literally any rap artist is getting a #1, it is so easy in the streaming era, thats why im not falling very fast to say this girl is a MPG just because she is having top 10s in billboard, gurl please. 

It's different in the rap genre, people are a lot more open to new names there. They're here more for the music as opposed to who's selling it. Pop's different, it generally takes the public a lot of time to warm up to new pop names. It seems that if you're a pop artist, you can only get a debut #1 if you're already established. If not, it's a climb at the very least. That's why her success shocked me. Her song sounds more like a grower (it certainly was for me) than an overnight runaway hit.

[gagaisitalian 3,573]

Heck yes!!! I am stanning this girl and wish her all of the success!!

[Aphasic 4,033]

BREAKING NEWS:

The reason why Billboard has not posted the chart for this week it's because they are planning on addding Olivia Rodrigo on this week's chart!!!!

Spoiler

hahahaha

 

[gagaisitalian 3,573]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

It would certainly be her most deserving hit if this happens. But I'm finding it really suspicious how she rose to this level of success out of nowhere. If you're not a teenager and don't live in America, you'll likely have no idea about her being a Disney girl or have any inkling of who she was until January arrived. That's why I was so surprised that this Driver's License song was aiming to be #1 in its debut week when no one had heard of her, so where were they even noticing this song upon its release week? And the success ever since is all pointing to "industry plant." I'm not saying she's not talented or doesn't deserve success but it's all too perfect to be seen as true organic success.

Remember that these days, it's extremely difficult for a newbie to release their debut album mere months after their debut single. If you look at all the new names over the last few years, minus very few exceptions, they all had to release a spate of stand-alone singles for maybe a year or more before they finally got the chance to put their album out (meaning the public had largely moved on by that time, which is a major error labels make). And it doesn't seem to matter how successful you are, that's just the way it is now apparently. So, I nearly spat out my drink when it was announced her album was all ready to be released in May. Not since Meghan Trainor have I seen a new artist's debut album roll out at quickly as that, which is very suspicious. And also nowadays, it can be a danger sign when a new artist is getting so many hits right out the gate. So many of these types of artists crash and burn from there on out. I don't like to be a downer but it's all I can think of. She's so young, it would be good if her label took a while to nourish her talent instead of over-exposing her.

TLDR but DL went viral on Tiktok. Viral tiktok songs=instant chart successes. Stop trying to downplay a deserving artist's debut music.

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We love seeing the first Asian-American female artist to achieve these achievements   (if I’m not wrong)

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She could have a number 1 on the food charts and you'd label her a MPG 

The way yall leech to success so early is so telling of your character. She's hasn't even been out for a year, maybe wait before you make statements like these.

[StrawberryBlond 14,822]

1 hour ago, gagaisitalian said:

TLDR but DL went viral on Tiktok. Viral tiktok songs=instant chart successes. Stop trying to downplay a deserving artist's debut music.

And how do you think certain content becomes viral on TikTok? Companies and labels back certain creators and pay sums of money to get their content featured in the hopes it'll become viral. Paying for a hit is the name of the game. The public may have made it popular but her team planted the seed first. Fair enough if her first song did this but her second was also a hit and now this one is primed to be. They can't all have gone viral.

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4 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

It would certainly be her most deserving hit if this happens. But I'm finding it really suspicious how she rose to this level of success out of nowhere. If you're not a teenager and don't live in America, you'll likely have no idea about her being a Disney girl or have any inkling of who she was until January arrived. That's why I was so surprised that this Driver's License song was aiming to be #1 in its debut week when no one had heard of her, so where were they even noticing this song upon its release week? And the success ever since is all pointing to "industry plant." I'm not saying she's not talented or doesn't deserve success but it's all too perfect to be seen as true organic success.

Remember that these days, it's extremely difficult for a newbie to release their debut album mere months after their debut single. If you look at all the new names over the last few years, minus very few exceptions, they all had to release a spate of stand-alone singles for maybe a year or more before they finally got the chance to put their album out (meaning the public had largely moved on by that time, which is a major error labels make). And it doesn't seem to matter how successful you are, that's just the way it is now apparently. So, I nearly spat out my drink when it was announced her album was all ready to be released in May. Not since Meghan Trainor have I seen a new artist's debut album roll out at quickly as that, which is very suspicious. And also nowadays, it can be a danger sign when a new artist is getting so many hits right out the gate. So many of these types of artists crash and burn from there on out. I don't like to be a downer but it's all I can think of. She's so young, it would be good if her label took a while to nourish her talent instead of over-exposing her.

Industry plants are not aristis who are pushed by the label, but created by them

She was popular already, have connections and money + she was dating another Disney star and broke up

One song blew up, a lot of people got to know her and here we are

[Phlop 4,773]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Yeah, had no idea there was an HSM spin-off. That's why when I heard people say she was part of HSM, I was thinking, what? She was about 4 when that came out! Clearly, this is something very niche that was aimed strictly at the young ground with older people having no idea of its existence. I have no idea of who any of the current Disney stars are. I, along with the rest of the world, stopped caring post-Miley/Demi/Selena. Didn't even know being a Disney star was still a thing the corporation did. It seems that you really have to work for your music career now, especially if you're female. Labels are terrified of taking a risk on a new name and that's why they make them prove their worth with a lot of singles first. They won't want to spend money funding you to create an album that may not sell. It's frustrating for the artist who just wants to hit the ground running but it's just the way of things. It doesn't even matter if you get a #1, you need to do more to prove it wasn't a fluke before you're allowed to proceed any further with an album. How Olivia bypassed all this is highly suspicious. And considering she's on Interscope, I think now we can further see why Gaga's been quite quiet this year. The majority of funding, promotion and attention is probably going towards Olivia. Which means we may get something new from Gaga once Sour is eventually released but we'll see.

I know, but it was only known to the young fans of this show. The rest of the world didn't know or care. Those Disney songs aren't even on her official Vevo account as they're seen as property of Disney. That's why Driver's License is on record as her official debut single. It's her first one as a proper soloist without the Disney name attached.

I'd consider it to be someone who really fits what a label wants in their next big star. When they find who they want, they want them to "happen" so badly that they put promote them all over Spotify, use payola for radio and basically do everything in their power to make it work for an artist that no one's heard of yet. Basically, it was mapped out for them to be a hit and it's like they weren't a success because the public liked them, they're a success because that's what was meant to be. It's always weird when a singer comes out of nowhere with no established fanbase or independent releases and gets a #1 in their debut week. If no one knows of them, how did they discover the song?

It's different in the rap genre, people are a lot more open to new names there. They're here more for the music as opposed to who's selling it. Pop's different, it generally takes the public a lot of time to warm up to new pop names. It seems that if you're a pop artist, you can only get a debut #1 if you're already established. If not, it's a climb at the very least. That's why her success shocked me. Her song sounds more like a grower (it certainly was for me) than an overnight runaway hit.

The thing with the other Disney stars is that I’ve heard of them, and most of them were somewhat household names. I’ve never seen a single episode of Hannah Montana or Wizards of Waverly place, but I knew who Miley and Selena Gomez were.

Im also under the impression HSM is only on Disney Plus, which is even more confusing to Olivias rising.

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22 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

And how do you think certain content becomes viral on TikTok? Companies and labels back certain creators and pay sums of money to get their content featured in the hopes it'll become viral. Paying for a hit is the name of the game. The public may have made it popular but her team planted the seed first. Fair enough if her first song did this but her second was also a hit and now this one is primed to be. They can't all have gone viral.

Wow you really have all of the answers for how artists can succeed, don't ya! 

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but the DL bridge was so good that it immediately turned me onto her and I absolutely loved Deja Vu and now I even love Good 4 U. Have you stepped away from your payola theories long enough to ask yourself if maybe the music is just...good? And people..........like it?

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1 minute ago, gagaisitalian said:

Wow you really have all of the answers for how artists can succeed, don't ya! 

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but the DL bridge was so good that it immediately turned me onto her and I absolutely loved Deja Vu and now I even love Good 4 U. Have you stepped away from your payola theories long enough to ask yourself if maybe the music is just...good? And people..........like it?

I've studied this stuff for a long time. I haven't reviewed albums and researched artists entire careers for the last decade for nothing. When people genuinely like a song and catch onto it organically, it tends to result in a slow burn to the top of the charts. If no one's heard of the artist, regardless of how good the song is, it can't possibly debut at #1. That's for established names who have fans who plan a campaign to get it to the top as soon as it comes out. New acts don't have that luxury. Even established names have to climb as well. I have never seen a complete unknown achieve what she has in less than 5 months. Nor have I ever seen a complete unknown given this amount of label support and being able to release an album just 5 months after their debut single. Clearly, it was all written and ready to go by the time DL came out, so she was clearly planned to be a success before she'd even put music out. This isn't to discredit her talent or her worthiness of success, it's just a statement of the blatantly obvious. Labels must really think we don't notice this stuff.

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She honestly won. When Deja Vu came out I was like yeah more of this lame ass teen drama bitch. 
But good 4 u is such a bop and she had like yknow taken an opposite turn

Good 4 her!

[IllusionLover 6,658]

8 hours ago, ConnorFilm said:

Three singles debuting in the top 10, with two of those possibly going #1? Olivia is officially a MPG.

The fact that Olivia went from new girl to mpg in under 12 hours of her career, no one's doing it like her

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5 hours ago, Phlop said:

Exactly. Her story is sus, because I didn’t even realize that HSM show was that big, I never hear anyone talk about it or mentioned online. And like you said her debut album coming sooo soon, while other news artists take forever for their debut (Ava Max for example).

Whats weirder is DL was her first song EVER. No EPs, mixtapes, nothing beforehand. Even Billie Eilish had LPs before her first album.

She legit came out of no where. It makes you wonder what kinda funding she’s getting and where it’s coming from, especially when she works for Disney.

I don't think Disney contributed to her success at all. Drivers License went viral on Tiktok organically almost immediately.