Living 1,583 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Miss Dolly said: Scotland has always supported France. It’s an extremely old alliance. I am #TeamFrance scary nationalism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, Living said: Well, let’s see. The average person doesn’t consider policies. I mean my friend is voting Lib today purely because they delivered a hand written letter. Personally I am hopefully for a SNP/Labour win but I’m expecting a Tory landslide. Exactly, when I vote I judge them on how they have treated Scotland in the past and their record in Government. It’s guaranteed SNP in Scotland Labour in Wales and Tory landslide in England (Hartlepool is going to the tories) Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimecia 6,879 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Vive la France! Time. It will not wait, no matter how hard you hold on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living 1,583 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Miss Dolly said: Exactly, when I vote I judge them on how they have treated Scotland in the past and their record in Government. It’s guaranteed SNP in Scotland Labour in Wales and Tory landslide in England (Hartlepool is going to the tories) God I hope we are wrong and England doesn’t do this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, Living said: God I hope we are wrong and England doesn’t do this It’s unfortunately thanks to the vaccines. If Hartlepool goes to the Tories they are guaranteed a win in 2024 Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuffy 1,049 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Ivannn said: Poland has its issues, true! But at least it does not act as a enemy state towards other countries in Europe. It is still respected partner internationally,, UK isnt. Poland really isn't a respected country in some circles I'm afraid. It was a rising star but the populism there has made it a thorn in the EU's side. This debate is a (relatively minor) fishing dispute, not a human rights one like the Polish gov. The UK government has certainly lost some reputation, but recent support to India and vaccines has boosted its profile. Here in Canada, there's frequently positive news about the UK government. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Whatever size I would take it lick it swallow it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Benji said: People in this thread acting like the UK is bad for saying Macron got a small penis when France is literally threatening to go to war with them over fish u guys have good salmon we need you guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsomniaMonster69 3,758 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, flyaway said: The UK be like Totally of topic but I almost forgott what a BOP this song is! Vocals! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Benji said: The Jersey government implemented new rules on fishing, all it is is that they wanted fishermen to provide proof they had fished in their waters before and France has gone full blown dictator and threatened to cut off Jersey’s electricity because of it. The problem isn't the rules. The problem is that the Jersey government used these rules to artificially delay fishing licenses for French fishermen, using the additional bureaucracy as an excuse to discriminate against them. They've been waiting for more than 4 months to get these licenses, only to be "coincidentally" stuck in delays, be told that their submitted forms contained errors only for these "errors" to be so miniscule that even the uptight bureaucracy loving German government would shake their head in disagreement. These are people that have been out of work for 4 months now and have families to support. The UK has literally sent out the Royal Navy to intimidate French fishermen. France is staying within the limits of sanctions they are allowed to impose via the Brexit contract, while the UK is borderline escalating the conflict with their literal army. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuffy 1,049 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Living said: God I hope we are wrong and England doesn’t do this The problem is that there is no solid opposition to either the Tories or the SNP. Keir Starmer is a capable politician and would be good opposition without issues like Brexit or COVID-19. Unfortunately, Jeremy Corbyn and Momentum created a campaign similar to the Tories that nearly worked - very populist and blame-heavy. Starmer can't compete on that level and doesn't have the ideological force behind him, he's much more moderate. Right now, moderate politicians just aren't popular. The Lib Dems should be making a comeback but they can't go anywhere. Like the Tories with Leave, Nicola Sturgeon has Scotland on a ride with independence. She's a skilled politician but a Scotland outside of the UK is a high risk game which is now complicated by Brexit borders. It's a shame we aren't exploring reforming the UK to please all involved. That being said, I suspect the Tories post-Boris will shift slightly to the centre now Brexit is 'done'. Populism is cooling down around the world, so there could be some positive change on the way regardless of who's in power. Their vaccine rollout showed some common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Supersonic said: The problem isn't the rules. The problem is that the Jersey government used these rules to artificially delay fishing licenses for French fishermen, using the additional bureaucracy as an excuse to discriminate against them. They've been waiting for more than 4 months to get these licenses, only to be "coincidentally" stuck in delays, be told that their submitted forms contained errors only for these "errors" to be so miniscule that even the uptight bureaucracy loving German government would shake their head in disagreement. These are people that have been out of work for 4 months now and have families to support. The UK has literally sent out the Royal Navy to intimidate French fishermen. France is staying within the limits of sanctions they are allowed to impose via the Brexit contract, while the UK is borderline escalating the conflict with their literal army. Not true, the french fishing boats that provided accurate and sufficient documentation all received their licenses in time and can fish. The ones complaining about delays caused them theirselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,150 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, Gogo Yubari said: Poland really isn't a respected country in some circles I'm afraid. It was a rising star but the populism there has made it a thorn in the EU's side. This debate is a (relatively minor) fishing dispute, not a human rights one like the Polish gov. The UK government has certainly lost some reputation, but recent support to India and vaccines has boosted its profile. Here in Canada, there's frequently positive news about the UK government. In EU is quite different. UK is hardly seen as friendly country and even with vaccine program they tricked the EU by buying doses originally intended for EU by offering higher prices. Later they tried to smuggle Astra Zeneca doses from Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,150 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Benji said: I think you need to look a little closer to home, my friend. It’s the EU banning exports to countries and EU members threatening to turn off the lights, not the UK. Oh please!! English propaganda machine has been nothing but hostile towards EU! DeGaulle was right when he vetoed UK entry in EEA 50 years ago! He knew how British politicans think and that they will tty to destroy it from inside,,,, and that is what UK is trying to do for the last 6 years! Who is wrong? 27 EU states + EEA members or UK alone on other side?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ivannn said: Oh please!! English propaganda machine has been nothing but hostile towards EU! DeGaulle was right when he vetoed UK entry in EEA 50 years ago! He knew how British politicans think and that they will tty to destroy it from inside,,,, and that is what UK is trying to do for the last 6 years! Who is wrong? 27 EU states + EEA members or UK alone on other side?? You want to talk about propaganda when you just posted “they tricked the EU by buying doses originally intended for EU by offering higher prices. Later they tried to smuggle Astra Zeneca doses from Italy.” Astrazeneca is “selling” the vaccine at cost and the EU tried to haggle them down which delayed their contract which also led to them negotiating a weaker contract that allowed AZ to prioritise other countries. The UK has mostly been a voice of reason in the EU. Opposing too much integration being aware of how politics is. Now you have multiple far right leaders in the EU who have a vote on things like having one combined army etc? That doesn’t seem like a good idea to me It opposed open borders thankfully. We may have the odd terror attack but it could’ve been worse and we could have been like France where they have one every other week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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