Human Rights Watch: Israel guilty of apartheid

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2 minutes ago, Kadikaado said:

 

 

 

  I mean, both sides have a point

1 - UN gave oficially that land to jewish people in the end of WWII- BUT there were already palestinian people living there.

2 - There were jewish settlers there already since the end of century XIX. And there was peace back in those days.

3 - Jewish people turned the desert into a flourishing land.

4 - Palestinian people felt entitled to the lands jewish people invested their money and work.

5 - Palestinian people attacked Israel first, BUT Israel always fights back 10 worse.

And so on and on.

 

There is no simple way to answer all that, but what Israel do is criminal, at the same time palestinian hide terrorists under schools and hospitals as human shields.

As I said above, does any of what you mentioned justify Apartheid? 
 

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16 minutes ago, Kadikaado said:

There is no simple way to answer all that, but what Israel do is criminal, at the same time palestinian hide terrorists under schools and hospitals as human shields.

Thank you for your answer. It really isn't as black and white as people put it. 

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24 minutes ago, Aphroditus said:

Wow. Thanks for justifying Apartheid, Hitler is proud of you

I am not justifying anything I dont think oen or the other is better, but it is something I observed between the two countries. Palestinians flocking to go to Israel and flee misery. I wish they could live together in harmony, it would also send a good message about muslims and jewish people being able to be together.

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Just now, KanyeWest said:

I am not justifying anything I dont think oen or the other is better, but it is something I observed between the two countries. Palestinians flocking to go to Israel and flee misery. I wish they could live together in harmony, it would also send a good message about muslims and jewish people being able to be together.

Do you also wish Algerians lived in harmony with their French colonizers? Because that's what Israel is: a colonial state

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20 minutes ago, Kadikaado said:

 

 

 

  I mean, both sides have a point

1 - UN gave oficially that land to jewish people in the end of WWII- BUT there were already palestinian people living there.

2 - There were jewish settlers there already since the end of century XIX. And there was peace back in those days.

3 - Jewish people turned the desert into a flourishing land.

4 - Palestinian people felt entitled to the lands jewish people invested their money and work.

5 - Palestinian people attacked Israel first, BUT Israel always fights back 10 worse.

And so on and on.

 

There is no simple way to answer all that, but what Israel do is criminal, at the same time palestinian hide terrorists under schools and hospitals as human shields.

The Israeli state was the product of Zionism proclaimed in 1886 by Herzl (dubbed the father of political Zionism) as a "solution to the Jewish question". It's entire goal is the reestablishment of a "Jewish state" in the "Holy Land". It all lead to the Balfour declaration of 1917 that forcefully established a colonial state for Jewish people in Palestine as a form of "mandate". Weizmann was then elected as president of Israel and leader of the Zionist movement. From then on, the colonial state of Israel has been constantly practicing its colonial violence over Palestinians, and Palestinians have been fighting back through all possible forms. You can't equate their violence to the violence practiced by Israel, who initiated the colonial project. It's time we stop looking at things in grey areas because sometimes things are black and white. There are no two sides, period. 

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17 minutes ago, KanyeWest said:

I am not justifying anything I dont think oen or the other is better, but it is something I observed between the two countries. Palestinians flocking to go to Israel and flee misery. I wish they could live together in harmony, it would also send a good message about muslims and jewish people being able to be together.

"so bad African American people work in a white country in white businesses, they should go the Africa" you're ridiculous. study hard, start from elementary school, logic, succession of events and then try to link the bs you're spewing.

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40 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

The Israeli state was the product of Zionism proclaimed in 1886 by Herzl (dubbed the father of political Zionism) as a "solution to the Jewish question". It's entire goal is the reestablishment of a "Jewish state" in the "Holy Land". It all lead to the Balfour declaration of 1917 that forcefully established a colonial state for Jewish people in Palestine as a form of "mandate". Weizmann was then elected as president of Israel and leader of the Zionist movement. From then on, the colonial state of Israel has been constantly practicing its colonial violence over Palestinians, and Palestinians have been fighting back through all possible forms. You can't equate their violence to the violence practiced by Israel, who initiated the colonial project. It's time we stop looking at things in grey areas because sometimes things are black and white. There are no two sides, period. 

I know all that, but I still don't think it's black and white. There were barely any people in that region in the time jews WENT BACK to their native land, they were fought off their original land by the people we call palestinians today. There's a lot of karma going there. I don't think what Israel does is right, but I don't support what palestinians do to. I don't think kidnapping and bomber-man/bomber-car terrorism is self defense.

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People complain about free speech and cancel culture, especially at universities/colleges, but standing up for Palestine literally puts people's careers in jeopardy. I really hope people will start opening their eyes to what is truly going on.

Free Palestine.

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2 hours ago, alsemanche said:

Do you also wish Algerians lived in harmony with their French colonizers? Because that's what Israel is: a colonial state

I think it's a different situation, Algerians were murdered, and also France has declared crime against humanity lately which is amazing

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2 minutes ago, KanyeWest said:

Algerians were murdered

Palestinians are being murdered every day... And France declaring that doesn't change the reality of what happened???