Guest Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 So I've been obsessed with Kim Petras just lately! I think she's fabulous and I love how she's a proud trans women in the music industry and always includes all member of the LGBTQ+ community in her videos. However I'm just really uncomfortable of the fact she still works with Dr Luke after all the allegations made against him by Kesha....like why would anyone do that? I also wanted to say that she certainly isn't the only one as Doja Cat has also worked with him and her hit single "Say So" was produced by him, but why would these women want to work with an abuser who put someone in there lowest place to the point they wanted to harm themselves? I know these artist aren't the only ones who have worked with someone "problematic" but I just wanted to know peoples opinion on this matter and how sometimes celebrities don't make the best of choices when it comes to there collaborators. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightadieu 4,530 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I think Doja recently said that they’re legally bound to their respective contracts which were signed before the allegations went public. If I recall correctly Kesha would have still had to publish her music under Dr. Luke’s label if she hadn’t went to court. Please correct me if any of this is false Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloop 10,316 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, Sine From Above said: So I've been obsessed with Kim Petras just lately! I think she's fabulous and I love how she's a proud trans women in the music industry and always includes all member of the LGBTQ+ community in her videos. However I'm just really uncomfortable of the fact she still works with Dr Luke after all the allegations made against him by Kesha....like why would anyone do that? I also wanted to say that she certainly isn't the only one as Doja Cat has also worked with him and her hit single "Say So" was produced by him, but why would these women want to work with an abuser who put someone in there lowest place to the point they wanted to harm themselves? I know these artist aren't the only ones who have worked with someone "problematic" but I just wanted to know peoples opinion on this matter and how sometimes celebrities don't make the best of choices when it comes to there collaborators. There's your answer. They're as far as we know just allegations. Not taking any sides, but it's really as simple as that. It's nice to jump on hate trains because they align with your biases, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions as long as there isn't any factual evidence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,951 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 There are contracts in place that artist are legally bound to prior to all the allegations. It can take years for upcoming artists to have their work out there or there contracts be executed. Kim also has spoken on the situation saying something along the lines of her not disregarding any of the allegations against Dr. Luke and in fact loves Kesha. However as a fan of Kesha myself, I listen to Kim and am at peace with that. I will not boycott one of the few prominent trans artists we have and someone who constantly stands up for LGBT issues. I also love her personality, vocals and stage presence. I have faith that she will stop working with Dr. Luke once her contract with him is terminated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sneaky said: There's your answer. They're as far as we know just allegations. Not taking any sides, but it's really as simple as that. It's nice to jump on hate trains because they align with your biases, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions as long as there isn't any factual evidence But numerous women have spoken out? I think it's unfair to say they are just "allegations" I'd very much doubt Kesha would make up such things, why would she need/want to? I stand by the victim, always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alannah 2,957 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 It's also an extremely difficult industry to break into - if a contract is offered, that's a lifechanging opportunity and can't be broken unless you want to be blacklisted (or essentially go bankrupt with how much legal would go into that). I hope Kim will move forward with other folks once she's able. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iizwhoiiz 113 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, nightadieu said: I think Doja recently said that they’re legally bound to their respective contracts which were signed before the allegations went public. If I recall correctly Kesha would have still had to publish her music under Dr. Luke’s label if she hadn’t went to court. Please correct me if any of this is false She still is in contract with his label and still releasing under it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisGaga 315 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I really love Kim Petras aswell and I have to say a lot about this issue. We really need to start at the beginning of this problem. Kesha accused Dr. Luke of raping her, and this is a really serious issue where nobody should doupt this alligation at first. But this lawsuit is happening for a really long time now (since 2014), and there are a lot more facts that we shouldn't ignore. During this lawsuit Kesha accused Dr. Luke of not only raping her. She texted Lady Gaga claiming he had raped Katy Perry too! And this was a lie! Katy herself denied this and Kesha had to pay about 370.000 Dollars to Dr. Luke because of this defamation! https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51412420 https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=HZo84COEIzBhnL9B1hcazQ==&system=prod And why would someone, who was really raped, accuse the abuser to also be the raper of somebody else?! This doesn't make sense to me! Why would you start to lie about such a serious issue? Since I know this, I do not believe Kesha anymore. I guess, everybody should have their own opinion about it, and nobody of us will ever know, what really happend! To this day, there is no judgement about it, so we only have a defendant and not more or less!! You should always think about the fact, that Dr. Luke could really be innocent, and Kesha only did this, to get an escape from her contract! This sounds really disgusting, but it could be the truth. And Kim has the same opinion about this allegations as I do. She revealed in an interview, that she would never work with someone, who she believes to be an abuser of a woman! And if we do not focus on these allegations, and just look at the music he creates, we see one of the most talented pop music producers of all time!! He is a freakin genius!! I mean look at his discography. He produced sooo many hits and is kind of responsible for the success of Katy Perry, Marina, Kelly Clarkson, Miley and of course Kesha too. https://www.nylon.com/articles/dr-luke-kesha-playlist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Luke_production_discography He really made pop music to what it is today and is one of the rare talents in this industry as Max Martin, Cirkut, Dr. Luke, RedOne etc. So why should Kim not work with one of the most talented pop producers (with all the infos I told before), when she wants to release perfect pop music?! I'd do the same. So enjoy her songs without being uncomfortable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig09 24,701 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 IS SHE TRANS? OMGGGGG gay engineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I personally don't support her and don't listen to her music, same with Doja Cat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
js4754394o9823 6,882 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, ChrisGaga said: She texted Lady Gaga claiming he had raped Katy Perry too! And this was a lie! Katy herself denied this and Kesha had to pay about 370.000 Dollars to Dr. Luke because of this defamation! https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51412420 https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=HZo84COEIzBhnL9B1hcazQ==&system=prod And why would someone, who was really raped, accuse the abuser to also be the raper of somebody else?! This doesn't make sense to me! Why would you start to lie about such a serious issue? Since I know this, I do not believe Kesha anymore. If you belive in something that isn't true, you're not lying You've got your facts wrong, that's it. And yes, Kesha was wrong about Katy Perry thing, but you are missing a improtant thing here Kesha, Gaga and Katy are FRIENDS They all follow each other on social media And they support one another red wine, cheap perfume and a filthy pout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
js4754394o9823 6,882 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Many people hate on Kim, because she said some things about the situation I don't care anymore tbh BUT, I'm not going to give Dr. Puke any money Soo if care, but you like the music, just download it from the web red wine, cheap perfume and a filthy pout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Just now, kukuryku666 said: If you belive in something that isn't true, you're not lying You just have your facts wrong, that's it. And yes, Kesha was wrong about Katy Perry thing, but you are missing a improtant thing here Kesha, Gaga and Katy are FRIENDS They all follow each other on social media We don't even truly know if Kesha was actually wrong or if Katy doesn't wanna disclose her past (which is ok, some people prefer to not talk about it or need more time to talk about it) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,881 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 12 hours ago, kukuryku666 said: Kesha, Gaga and Katy are FRIENDS They all follow each other on social media I have to laugh if in 2021 you believe who you follow on social media are your friends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
js4754394o9823 6,882 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, ChrisGaga said: And if we do not focus on these allegations, and just look at the music he creates, we see one of the most talented pop music producers of all time!! He is a freakin genius!! Almost all of his hit songs are sampled, some without promission Avril was sued for Girlfriend because of it, lol red wine, cheap perfume and a filthy pout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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