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Blackout19

Cause Chromatica is her best album, and REALLY is.. And you compare ARTPOP with this album

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Obsessed ARTPOP Haters live in the past and can’t stand that people like the album now so they’re getting louder.

 

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monster4life231

ARTPOP and Joanne are my two favourite Gaga albums. They're completely opposites (and probably the most disliked in the fanbase), but I think they're amazing.

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The Child

Because the fanbase still has PTSD from that era. Gaga went from being loved in 2011 to being completely hated in 2013. I’m a fan since 2009 and ARTPOP still left a bitter taste.

At that time it was her worst album. Gaga couldn’t explain the concept, the era was a mess, it started well with Applause but it went quickly south.

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I DIDN'T MEAN TO POST THIS HERE. :messga: ARTPOP IS GREAT

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JustTea
1 hour ago, Reez said:

What do you mean MJH is a bought track? Who did she buy it from? Also with Donatella, how can you borrow a song? Am I too young to understand this? :ladyhaha:

1 hour ago, xoxo Craig said:

 MJH is a bought track, Donatella is a borrowed track

Well, basically reused instrumentals not tracks, but still originals. And both were produced by Madeon or Zedd themselves. Prior versions leaked online, but were never released officially. So they weren't borrowed or bought. :koons:

"Madeon recently answered the questions on how Mary Jane Holland was born which involved this song. First of all, Madeon had the instrumental in this (called Revenge) used in his some of his shows. His publisher sent it to someone who wrote a song to it, which is the one you hear here (Cant Beat the Machines). Madeon did not like it and it was never officially released but eventually leaked online anyways"

"Zedd thought gaga did it better so he gave this song to gaga, that is why this one didnt release."

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ShayCristoforo

People had Born This Way music / era comparatively. So ARTPOP kinda paled in comparison for most. 

It was also a bit of a messy and corny era, even though we love it lol. 

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hijadeputa

Musicwise, I like ARTPOP. I was having a rough time around that time so I could connect and heal from it, so it will always be a meaningful album for me.


Talking in terms of how Gaga was doing under that period is another side of the coin. I mean, her tweeting she don’t remember the album is highkey because she was on drugs almost all the time during that period, it was most likely dark and very depressive. And that is sad but I can understand it and relate to it as well.

Speaking musicwise again, I think a lot of people were not ready for the sound of ARTPOP. The world was not ready. And we all have different taste in music and that’s fine, I mean I’d choose Chromatica over AP too, but there’s no need to trash the album. IMO it spawned a lot of good songs that I listen to often today, some of them are

Sexxx Dreams

DWUW (R Kelly version) (sorry ik he is a dirty rat but that version still slaps and will forever be that bop)

MJH

Applause

GUY

And I think the other songs are good too, it’s you know, when you hear a song and can relate to special moment/period of your life?

That’s ARTPOP for me.

 

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Anderson123

I don't see what wrong with Aura, Donatella and MJH using previously made instrumentals and Venus a sample. Gaga had a vision for these songs while creating them and they sound good, no matter if some are just copy and paste. That's how the music industry works sometimes. Those who think Gaga and a producer sit in a room and write a song and music from scratch all the time will end up disappointed.

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Pop Music

No hate from me

It's my favorite album of all time and I defend all the time

Pop Music and Lady Gaga forever!
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The Child
8 minutes ago, GNZAREVILO said:

Musicwise, I like ARTPOP. I was having a rough time around that time so I could connect and heal from it, so it will always be a meaningful album for me.


Talking in terms of how Gaga was doing under that period is another side of the coin. I mean, her tweeting she don’t remember the album is highkey because she was on drugs almost all the time during that period, it was most likely dark and very depressive. And that is sad but I can understand it and relate to it as well.

Speaking musicwise again, I think a lot of people were not ready for the sound of ARTPOP. The world was not ready. And we all have different taste in music and that’s fine, I mean I’d choose Chromatica over AP too, but there’s no need to trash the album. IMO it spawned a lot of good songs that I listen to often today, some of them are

Sexxx Dreams

DWUW (R Kelly version) (sorry ik he is a dirty rat but that version still slaps and will forever be that bop)

MJH

Applause

GUY

And I think the other songs are good too, it’s you know, when you hear a song and can relate to special moment/period of your life?

That’s ARTPOP for me.

 

The world wasn’t ready for ARTPOP cause it sounded dated lmao

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1 hour ago, The Child said:

Because the fanbase still has PTSD from that era. Gaga went from being loved in 2011 to being completely hated in 2013. I’m a fan since 2009 and ARTPOP still left a bitter taste.

At that time it was her worst album. Gaga couldn’t explain the concept, the era was a mess, it started well with Applause but it went quickly south.

Why is everyone saying she couldn't explain the concept of ARTPOP? I think it's too abstract to be explained. Even with Chromatica, the concept is pretty abstract imo, especially when she's explaining it in those little videos on Spotify. Also, I think she tends to sound complicated on purpose and likes being misunderstood sometimes 

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ThePopDevil
1 hour ago, xoxo Craig said:

Well conceptually its like Gaga had an idea and spat it out with no real form onto a canvas. There's no real way to navigate it. The concept was supposed to be putting art at the forefont yet the opening track is a bought beat and dulled down from what she wanted, the 2nd track uses a sample throughout the whole song (which isn't a bad thing but its literally a copy and paste), MJH is a bought track, Donatella is a borrowed track, I Wanna Be With U was changed to Dope, Do What U Want features R.Kelly, Gyspy doesn't make sense... 

The songs aren't bad at all, but as a whole album it does get quite messy. Its hypocritical at times, and she (the artist) did not have full control on how her art should be made... which was the whole point of the album. 

Its my second favourite album, so I'm not coming at this because I hate it. 

I don't think people still understand what Gaga wanted to do with ARTPOP. The whole thing about this album and era was for Gaga to not fit in into one image or perception of who she is as a person but more importantly as an artist. 

A major criticism of the album has always been that it's not cohesive sonically. But that was the whole point of the album - to not conform to one genre or structure, unlike for example Chromatica where it was a homage to 90s house, which is why it is regarded as so "cohesive". Gaga served edm (Aura), edm infused disco (Venus), industrial edm (GUY), synthpop (Sexxx Dreams), trap (Jewels n Drugs), glam pop (Manicure)..and that's just the first 6 tracks. Gaga really wanted to make the music that she wanted to make at that particular point in time without regarding what her management or her fans wanted from her. And I love that. I hate when singers make music to please their fans.

Even with how Gaga presented herself during the era, her wardrobe was club kid-heavy and every time she presented herself to the public, even just going outside of her hotel she looked different every single time, was to never stick to one image or the image of how a pop star should look like. That was the whole "put art in the forefront" thing, for her to be able to express herself in whatever way she wants to, release whatever music she wants to. The problem was that people saw "art" in the title and thought she was gonna sing about art in a philosophical sense. But the weight in the songs on this album is in the spirit that they were made in.

ARTPOP is challenging yes, but that was its whole purpose. 

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alsemanche
2 hours ago, Blackout19 said:

Cause Chromatica is her best album, and REALLY is.. And you compare ARTPOP with this album

What does that have to do with anything :air:

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