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sarahb
45 minutes ago, kukuryku666 said:

"Boo hoo, crazy PETA

wHaT nOw, i cAn eVeN kIlL a MoSqUitO?"

Like... stfu.

I mean if you got a reason why killing insects and killing humans or other particular animals aren't treated the same that doesn't boil down to certain species being valued more than other species (aka 'speciesism') then go ahead. 

Do you feel him sir?
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Chromatican
21 minutes ago, Reality said:

I'm all for respecting animals and treating them humanely, but this is ridiculous.

For example, the meat industry is just awful. I wish we could change their practices, but I also wouldn't wish that meat was extinct from our diets. 

This is a complete contradiction. The meat “industry” becoming humane is improbable given the amount of meat eaters in the world. Lab grown meat is probably the most ethical way to eat meat. 

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Chromatican
1 minute ago, sarahb said:

I mean if you got a reason why killing insects and killing humans or other particular animals aren't treated the same that doesn't boil down to certain species being valued more than other species (aka 'speciesism') then go ahead. 

Killing any species that does not pose a threat to you is immoral. If you are allergic to an insect and it poses a threat, by all means kill it. But killing a human, animal and even an insect without provocation is immoral to varying degrees.

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ALGAYDO
57 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

It actually is absolutely not the time :rip: there are much worse things to worry about in the world at the moment. Specieism is a joke and it's shameful that they'd lump that in with ****ing racism and homophobia. When will they understand that shaming people for eating meat will do nothing but make people want to eat more meat. I will gladly become vegan if I have the means but not because these people bullied me into believing I share the same rights with cockroaches.

Girl that’s like saying “calling people out on their racism/homophobia will do nothing but make them wanna be more racist/homophobic“ 

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REALITY
3 minutes ago, Chromatican said:

This is a complete contradiction. The meat “industry” becoming humane is improbable given the amount of meat eaters in the world. Lab grown meat is probably the most ethical way to eat meat. 

It's not a contradiction at all. I said, "I wish we could change their practices." Wishful thinking doesn't necessarily apply to reality. I can wish that they had better practices, but understand that they probably won't. 

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢.
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littlepotter
32 minutes ago, kukuryku666 said:

No one is treated as bad as animals. Billions are killed daily in torture. There's a lot of **** happening right now, but it isn't any less important.

Sorry but I just don't agree. Why would humans put other species' interests before other humans'? I can't believe the west has succeeded in dehumanizing Other people to the point where their plight is equated to that of animals. 

I'm completely for ending animal suffering and finding alternate ways to nourish the planet that aren't cruel, but to do it under the guise of "specieism" and equating it to atrocious things like racism is not gonna fly with me. 

chaeri pls
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52 minutes ago, HEARTSTOP said:

Their point is that humans are not superior. But if that's the case, we should behave like other animals and not give a **** about what we kill or not. Other animals don't care either.

Exactly. Animals kill and eat each other with impunity. Peta are discriminating against humans. 

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Chromatican
1 minute ago, littlepotter said:

Sorry but I just don't agree. Why would humans put other species' interests before other humans'?

Humans wanting to end animal suffering is not putting their interests above our own though.

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Chromatican
Just now, MOT said:

Exactly. Animals kill and eat each other with impunity. Peta are discriminating against humans. 

Go act like a lion and hunt down cows and try to eat them with your bare teeth then if you want to act like an animal. 

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ALGAYDO
4 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

Sorry but I just don't agree. Why would humans put other species' interests before other humans'? I can't believe the west has succeeded in dehumanizing Other people to the point where their plight is equated to that of animals. 

I'm completely for ending animal suffering and finding alternate ways to nourish the planet that aren't cruel, but to do it under the guise of "specieism" and equating it to atrocious things like racism is not gonna fly with me. 

We can focus on human rights AND animal welfare at the same time. 

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littlepotter
1 minute ago, ALGAYDO said:

Girl that’s like saying “calling people out on their racism/homophobia will do nothing but make they wanna be more racist/homophobic“ 

Why is it trendy lately to draw analogies where they absolutely don't belong? You're too smart for me to explain to you how defending yourself against hate speech, a crime, is not the same as telling people what food to put in their bodies when it is and will always be their freedom to do so

chaeri pls
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Vision of Love
23 minutes ago, Reality said:

I'm all for respecting animals and treating them humanely, but this is ridiculous. No one can and will ever convince me that an ant and a human being are worth the same. Humans are superior, to an extent.

Besides, it's not like the natural world sees it that way either. Nature is ****ing brutal. I'm not saying that humans aren't either. For example, the meat industry is just awful. I wish we could change their practices, but I also wouldn't wish that meat was extinct from our diets. That just doesn't make sense. 

No one is trying to convince you that an ant and a human are worth the same. If anyone is given the choice to kill an ant or a human, they’re going to kill the ant. However, the meat and dairy industry are having to meet the demands of billions of people, so they are set up to produce as much product as possible, at the cost of billions of sentient beings. The way humans are mistreating chickens, cows, pigs, etc. is what is being questioned. It is easy to forget that we evolved from great apes, so I think that’s where they’re coming from, trying to asses the discrepancy of love we attribute to different species with similar sentience. 
 

Also yes, nature is brutal. But humans have built up civilization to a point that this conversation of “Well it happens in nature so it must be okay!” is pointless. (Natural carnivores don’t cook their meat either, so by that standard cooked food must be bad too). We have options available to us that other animals do not have, so continuing to support meat and dairy industries when we don’t have to is a personal choice (a choice I’m not attacking anyone for, just mentioning the difference between humans and natural carnivores). 

I hope this doesn’t come across as combative, I’m just passionate about helping animals and the planet 💖 

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