Katy Perry Forced Her Dog To Be Vegan On New Tweet

[TheQueenLG 2,469]

First of all, the ignorance in this thread is utterly and completely astounding. 

Second of all, dogs are not wolves. We created dogs through breeding and they are domesticated. 

They are omnivores. And as a matter of demonstrable fact, they can have a healthy diet that is vegan, so long as it is prepared correctly, as with any other diet. 

Also, to y'all who keep saying that it's wrong to force your dog to be vegan: 

Y'all realize that the alternative is to force your dog to be a meat-eater, when you know as a matter of absolute fact that they can survive just fine without their consumption leading to the slaughter of innocent, sentient being who suffer and feel pain, right?

Lastly, the very concept of pet-ownership is based on forcing animals: we force them to live where we want them to, when/what they can eat, when/where they can poop/potty, and much more. 

If you have a problem with forcing animals to do things that you think they should have agency over, you should also be reconsidering the institution of pet-ownership all together. 

[LeafBug 7,811]

1 hour ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

It is "an important part of your diet" if you chose it to be.

Why do you imply vegans lie and ignore facts when you're the one believing what's convenient for her ignoring science?

Obviously not all vegans lie and ignore facts, but the ones here are doing just that. They cherry pick what they want to see to further their agenda. Nobody gets to police/ force what others choose to eat. Many vegans live in privileged societies and guilt others who consume meat. Come and try that in a developing country, I promise you won’t walk away without severe backlash. It’s not so much the vegan lifestyle that is the problem, it’s the people who want to excessively control others without boundaries, you understand what I’m trying to say? 

The other comments are more than enough to show you why dogs should not be forced into a vegan diet- their closest ancestors (wolves and wild dogs) consumed and primarily digest flesh. Even if the plant based diet works, do you honestly, like really honestly, think it’s optimal and the best for them? ( this is the part where the disagreement happens) 

Dogs naturally seek out meat, if that is not enough to convince you.. I don’t know what is. And if you know that as a fact, why switch plant based diet and supplement the missing nutrients? Because you don’t want to kill animals for food? Not good enough a reason. Animals exist to be consumed by other animals. The food chain exists for a reason and their digestive systems evolved that way.

Lastly, many factory farm conditions are NOT okay, that is why we should raise animals humanely before we consume them. Nobody wants them to suffer unnecessary pain. 
 

Thankfully, most people here and share my sentiments and won’t force dogs into a plant based diet. 

[Rj Barker 3,328]

1 hour ago, TheQueenLG said:

First of all, the ignorance in this thread is utterly and completely astounding. 

Second of all, dogs are not wolves. We created dogs through breeding and they are domesticated. 

They are omnivores. And as a matter of demonstrable fact, they can have a healthy diet that is vegan, so long as it is prepared correctly, as with any other diet. 

Also, to y'all who keep saying that it's wrong to force your dog to be vegan: 

Y'all realize that the alternative is to force your dog to be a meat-eater, when you know as a matter of absolute fact that they can survive just fine without their consumption leading to the slaughter of innocent, sentient being who suffer and feel pain, right?

Lastly, the very concept of pet-ownership is based on forcing animals: we force them to live where we want them to, when/what they can eat, when/where they can poop/potty, and much more. 

If you have a problem with forcing animals to do things that you think they should have agency over, you should also be reconsidering the institution of pet-ownership all together. 

What a load of garbage you just wrote. Meat is the natural main part of a dogs diet, domesticated or wild. Irregardless of your beliefs. If you're vegan get a pet that falls in line with you like a rabbit. Forcing veganism on people or animals is just as bad as forcing your religion on people. Keep it to yourself. 

[uo111 5,251]

3 hours ago, TheQueenLG said:

First of all, the ignorance in this thread is utterly and completely astounding. 

Second of all, dogs are not wolves. We created dogs through breeding and they are domesticated. 

They are omnivores. And as a matter of demonstrable fact, they can have a healthy diet that is vegan, so long as it is prepared correctly, as with any other diet. 

Also, to y'all who keep saying that it's wrong to force your dog to be vegan: 

Y'all realize that the alternative is to force your dog to be a meat-eater, when you know as a matter of absolute fact that they can survive just fine without their consumption leading to the slaughter of innocent, sentient being who suffer and feel pain, right?

Lastly, the very concept of pet-ownership is based on forcing animals: we force them to live where we want them to, when/what they can eat, when/where they can poop/potty, and much more. 

If you have a problem with forcing animals to do things that you think they should have agency over, you should also be reconsidering the institution of pet-ownership all together. 

Probably best just to give up. Some people think “forcing” dogs to eat dry biscuits that are nutritionally complete but vegan is cruel, and they should be forced to eat dry biscuits that contain rotten scraps from the floor of meat processing plants instead because that is “natural.” Also, all vegans are liars somehow. It’s not worth the effort.

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

I can't wait for the day when we start forcing lions and wolves to be vegans Because why only project our human morals onto dogs, let's do it with all animals. 

[seba 291]

aside from the fact that her dog probably gets better medical care than most people in the world I love this hypocrisy in the comments: poor dog, he will not have a proper diet, this is animal abuse ... and at the same time they do not care that eating meat results in mass murdering of animals, which is perhaps the most extreme example of abuse and objectification of animals.

[seba 291]

6 hours ago, Queen Bitch said:

I can't wait for the day when we start forcing lions and wolves to be vegans Because why only project our human morals onto dogs, let's do it with all animals. 

do you really not understand the difference between wild animals and pets that we as humans are cared for and they are completely dependent on us? or are you just pretending ignorance?

[Irlprincecharming 2]

Dogs are mainly meat eaters, they need more protein. This can literally cause her dog to get ill liek...

edit: ok ok im going to leave what I said because I was wrong and made a mistake but after a little research Nugget is a poodle and poodles are able to do better on vegan diets than most dogs, some breeds can't do fiber well meaning they should get their protein from meat instead of vegetables.  

[Suuus 5,632]

11 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

Well... I gonna be blamed for being "judgemental" if I say placing your food tastes above the environment is selfish even if it's litterally placing one of your own non-essential envy above everyvody's future, or lack of. 

Please stop victimizing yourself acting like you were tyranically "forced into" anything, that's just so dishonest. I don't pretend you impose your view on me when you merely expose it so be as fair with me please.

Why would eat stuff you dont like thats ridiculous 

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

14 minutes ago, seba said:

do you really not understand the difference between wild animals and pets that we as humans are cared for and they are completely dependent on us? or are you just pretending ignorance?

Of course there is a difference between wild animals and pets. I would call my comment sarcastic. 

[FrederickSpears 2,070]

On 1/17/2021 at 7:25 AM, xoxo Craig said:

Dogs CANNOT be vegan. They can have some veg but not completely vegan. They need meat. This is literally common knowledge 

Bullshit.

My friend has been a vegan for YEARS, and her dogs are also vegan and LOVE vegetables. They do not eat meat anymore and haven't for years and her dogs are very healthy.

[GagaSine 7,464]

2 minutes ago, frederiickx said:

Bullshit.

My friend has been a vegan for YEARS, and her dogs are also vegan and LOVE vegetables. They do not eat meat anymore and haven't for years and her dogs are very healthy.

It should be an official rule of Gagadaily to not try to argue with Craig  he wouldn’t move an inch if an angel descended from heaven with the divine truth on a scroll

[Guillaume Hamon 6,048]

8 hours ago, Suuus said:

Why would eat stuff you dont like thats ridiculous 

The answer is in the comment you quoted.

Also vegan food has a billion different tastes so saying you never found even one good make me seriously doubt you test many vegan tastes...

[Guillaume Hamon 6,048]

21 hours ago, JK Rowling said:

 

Pro meat folks gave plenty of dishonest arguments in this thread and you ignored that...

I guess your comment gonna precise what you meant about vegans cherry picking.

21 hours ago, JK Rowling said:

Nobody gets to police/ force what others choose to eat.

Nobody's "forcing" you to do anything, that's victimization.

Also what you call policing is done by everybody here including the many ones bashing perry's choice so why isn't a general comment then...?

21 hours ago, JK Rowling said:

Many vegans live in privileged societies and guilt others who consume meat. Come and try that in a developing country, I promise you won’t walk away without severe backlash.

It's obvious you can't always have the choice to begin with and nobody here denied it...

Mmh no I would'nt try and I'm sure most vegans won't either. The promotion of vegan lifestyle I saw was nearly always by westerners to other westerners.

21 hours ago, JK Rowling said:

It’s not so much the vegan lifestyle that is the problem, it’s the people who want to excessively control others without boundaries, you understand what I’m trying to say?

Again, nobody can control you, convince you at most but that's it. It's just a debate y'all chose to join.

21 hours ago, JK Rowling said:

The other comments are more than enough to show you why dogs should not be forced into a vegan diet- their closest ancestors (wolves and wild dogs) consumed and primarily digest flesh. Even if the plant based diet works, do you honestly, like really honestly, think it’s optimal and the best for them? ( this is the part where the disagreement happens) 

If the pros say it's okay I trust it way more than non-pros assumptions that it may be just okay but not great.

Also once you saw dogs on a seriously done vegan diet having no issue you know that the idea it never was optimal for them is funny since they're doing as fine as others.

Btw, why's nobody ever discussing the chemicals ending in dogs bodies if folks care for what's optimal for them? It takes a vegan diet for it to be a subject while dogs on meat diet often haven't the best diet and no one discuss it.

21 hours ago, JK Rowling said:

Dogs naturally seek out meat, if that is not enough to convince you.. I don’t know what is. And if you know that as a fact, why switch plant based diet and supplement the missing nutrients? Because you don’t want to kill animals for food? Not good enough a reason. Animals exist to be consumed by other animals. The food chain exists for a reason and their digestive systems evolved that way.

They do seek it but it doesn't mean it's the only thing that works for them as proved by pros. Yeah they never experiment on other stuffs since they're beasts obeying to their instinct and not always to reason but we did experiment and saw it worked for them.

You forget the meat industry is awful for the environnement so it concerns our diet and pets diets.

Also in a system that "mass-produce" meat for others to consume it makes no sense to act like it was just about following the food chain pattern to follow nature.

Also humans digestive system may more easily digest veggies but it doesn't mean we can't eat meat, an animal could be made to digest meat more easily and be very fine digesting veggies.

21 hours ago, JK Rowling said:

Lastly, many factory farm conditions are NOT okay, that is why we should raise animals humanely before we consume them. Nobody wants them to suffer unnecessary pain.

I don't doubt you believe it but everyvody say that, the animal conditions stay the awful same and folks keep supporting it with their money so it's the same thinking I heard for 20+ years that made things remains unchanged...

[Guillaume Hamon 6,048]

22 hours ago, Miss Dolly said:

Let me be me, I don’t force my beliefs on anybody else, why should others force how they live onto me

Please if you join a debate of ideas don't accuse others of forcing theirs on you for simply stating it just like you do with yours. That's highly dishonest.