Taylor S. is closer to her fans than any other MPG

[Damon 10,904]

she always had a really wholesome relationship with her fans, that's one of the reasons why i love her 

[Ziggy 11,790]

1 hour ago, Kimmo said:

I meant favs as any other artist because I don’t know who’s favorites are for every user here but I guess you do... 
 

But now that you mentioned Gaga, she did Meet and Greets for enigma for a whooping $2,000 per ticket, and there was no restricts there so.... 

I meant the price tag as the restrictions  being cost prohibitive keeps that ish to a MINIMUM 

[flying 50]

I agree. Gaga used to be, but now it's just a farce of a relationship that she just keeps pretending exists so she can sell records. 

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1 hour ago, Cookies said:

I'd be shocked if Rihanna still has fans based on her lack of music. No offense to Ri, I love her music. I just can't imagine supporting Gaga if she did that to us

Exactly! People are complaining about Gaga not releasing since 2016 but Beyonce, Rihanna and Britney haven't either so whats the difference?

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13 minutes ago, flying said:

I agree. Gaga used to be, but now it's just a farce of a relationship that she just keeps pretending exists so she can sell records. 

Not true.

[Awakened M 3,055]

2 hours ago, Trenlord said:

They're also one of the few fanbases who don't drag other fanbases. I never see a Taylor stan on a tweet another artist writes up commenting about how nobody cares, etc. 

Now that I've read this, I haven't noticed this either. I wonder why that is.

[Kimmo 80,690]

43 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

I meant the price tag as the restrictions  being cost prohibitive keeps that ish to a MINIMUM 

Oh please, that was nothing but a money grab, imagine just targeting your rich fans and forget about the rest, she can keep it to a minimum without charging that much. Or she can also scout for fans to go backstage just like when she picks a fan from the audience after reading a letter 

But then Vegas is a very lucrative place for big stars so I can’t blame her for wanting to make some extra cash after all that’s what she was hired for 

[Jill 30,114]

19 minutes ago, flying said:

I agree. Gaga used to be, but now it's just a farce of a relationship that she just keeps pretending exists so she can sell records. 

lmao

[StrawberryBlond 14,830]

I don't think it's a marketing strategy, per se, but I do think she realises it's lucrative. It's great she keeps her fans so well-fed with new material and tours and makes so much personal time for them. But here's the thing...that's just a classic sign of a young fanbase, which is easy to mistake for devotion. I don't see any grown adults who have jobs, kids and bills to pay demanding that their favourite singer "make so much time for their fans." They have a life and responsibilities and no time to pay attention to a singer 24/7. Admittedly, I was a heavy follower of the whole fan connection Gaga had with her fans back in the day, but that's back when I was 18-23 years old. Still very young, still needing a lot of reassurance. Has my life dramatically improved or moved on in that time? No. But I've matured and moved past that need for an artist to lift me up and give me strength. That's a young person's game and people would look at you in a kinda pitying way if you're still super invested in your fave when you're 30. So, yeah, Taylor can have this connection with her young fans who appreciate it because they're young. When they get older and more jaded as life gets heavier, they won't feel the need for their fave to be like a surrogate parent to them.

3 hours ago, gumzy3000 said:

Taylor Swift has always been this way. I think she is the most humble and down to Earth celebrity out there. I don't think there has ever been a story of her being a diva or extra or rude. She works hard and is incredibly grounded, how can you hate her?

She's hardworking for sure and she does have talent, even if I don't always appreciate her music. But humble and down to earth? Sorry, no. I find her to be faux humble. In all her speeches, they're extremely self-centred and very victim narrative focused. I found her Billboard Woman Of The Year speech very cringey for this reason. She always makes a mountain out of a molehill, convinced she suffers more than everyone else and acts like any mistreatment she gets is highly unusual when actually so many of us go through it. And I've never gotten over how she flat-out lied to the media when the Kanye song dropped by never saying a word about how she had phone conversations with him concerning it beforehand and acted like she'd never heard a word about this song because it made her look like an innocent victim. And we would've bought this story had Kim not dropped those conversations and shown her up. She's always demanding so much money off her fans as well by having numerous album covers and vinyl releases and that ridiculous merch buying scheme she set up during her Reputation tour that favoured rich fans over poor fans. She's never been known to be a diva or rude? What about her going to war with Spotify and Apple because she wanted more money, all the lawsuits she's filed over pointless things like fans selling t-shirts with "Starbucks lovers" written on it (which isn't even the official lyric so she can't claim copyright) and trademarking the clearly unoriginal lyric "this sick beat"? True, there aren't any famous stories out there of her being a diva but there was a member here who spoke of an altercation at a restaurant in Boston when she demanded the whole place be cleared for her and her entourage and she was refused. Can't validate it, of course but seeing as this situation is a very popular piece of diva behaviour among celebrities, it's entirely plausible.

[Jill 30,114]

2 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Gaga had with her fans back in the day, but that's back when I was 18-23 years old. Still very young, still needing a lot of reassurance. Has my life dramatically improved or moved on in that time? No. But I've matured and moved past that need for an artist to lift me up and give me strength. That's a young person's game and people would look at you in a kinda pitying way if you're still super invested in your fave when you're 30.

I don't fvcking care how people see me. If you need or find comfort in an artist, then by all means keep on finding comfort there. Comfort in and of itself is very difficult to find, and you're saying people should abandon them because people will feel "pity" for them? No thanks. Life can be rough at all ages, and any coping/helping mechanism can help A LOT.

[StrawberryBlond 14,830]

14 minutes ago, Jill said:

I don't fvcking care how people see me. If you need or find comfort in an artist, then by all means keep on finding comfort there. Comfort in and of itself is very difficult to find, and you're saying people should abandon them because people will feel "pity" for them? No thanks. Life can be rough at all ages, and any coping/helping mechanism can help A LOT.

Of course you can find comfort in an artist but it's still very much something reserved mostly for the young. You'll notice it's nearly always very young fans who she's interacting with in all these clips, it's the same across the board. The young inspire the biggest devotion and have the need to meet their idols. Adults are a lot more nonchalant. Taylor uses her young fan devotion to her advantage in ways that really don't sit right with me. You'll notice she loves putting out multiple different album covers because this is where her young fanbase really shines as they're the type who are gullible enough to fall for this. Adults are lot more savvy and wisely just pick the one cover that they like the best. Though I don't know what kinda parents bankroll their kids outrageous demands of every cover. Nor do I know what fans actually do with all these copies of the exact same album. Even when I was young, I didn't do that.

[FrederickSpears 2,114]

Britney was SO close to her fans until she was shut off from the world from the c-ship. This was back before social media was huge, and Britney was always hanging with fans, meeting fans, etc. She even hung out with her past fansite admins Jordan from BH, Ruben from BS.org, WOB, etc. but the c-ship has alienated her from everyone and kept her in a bubble.

Taylor is very close to her fans though, too.

[Jill 30,114]

2 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Of course you can find comfort in an artist but it's still very much something reserved mostly for the young. You'll notice it's nearly always very young fans who she's interacting with in all these clips, it's the same across the board. The young inspire the biggest devotion and have the need to meet their idols. Adults are a lot more nonchalant. Taylor uses her young fan devotion to her advantage in ways that really don't sit right with me. You'll notice she loves putting out multiple different album covers because this is where her young fanbase really shines as they're the type who are gullible enough to fall for this. Adults are lot more savvy and wisely just pick the one cover that they like the best. Though I don't know what kinda parents bankroll their kids outrageous demands of every cover. Nor do I know what fans actually do with all these copies of the exact same album. Even when I was young, I didn't do that.

You're just underestimating young people's independent thought here. I was once young and a LM, but I was not buying merch everywhere. Many young people don't have enough money, and the ones that do have it because of their parents or work. In the first case, spending it is only possible after getting their parents' permission and in the second case, expending it is nothing to be mad about since it's their own money. You're mad at nothing here, every artist does this and the fact that Taylor gives more merch to collectors or fans interested in having her stuff is nothing to be THAT mad about. It's not like she's making people buy it or insulting them because they choose not to, plus I'm sure the majority of those decisions are not hers directly, but her management's and record label's. So, really, I wouldn't put that much thought into it.

[GABEL 1,853]

2 hours ago, Kimmo said:

No,You said I was comparing Taylor to Gaga when I wasn’t. Even read the first sentence from the OP 

I said "it's not fair to compare" as general  not " it's not fair of you to compare"

Where's the accusation 

[Kimmo 80,690]

7 minutes ago, GABEL said:

I said "it's not fair to compare" as general  not " it's not fair of you to compare"

Where's the accusation 

Sorry girl I forgive you  

let me get my glasses right quick