Let’s talk about beauty brands that aren’t making much sense....

[Miel 15,009]

2 hours ago, dynamite said:

What difference does it make whether she's black or a woman?! You don't need to make EVERYTHING about race. As a person (or rather, a YouTuber because they're all annoying af), regardless of skin colour or sex, her reaction went *off*. On some makeup she didn't even buy. I just can't imagine caring so much. Let's not create issues where they don't exist, save them for actual problems.

@Miel why the sad reaction please?

The contextualizing of Black women into the stereotype of the "mad Black woman" is a systemic issue.

I'm not disagreeing in that she could be making emotionally biased statements around some of these brands (although I agree with her in some points), but I'm mostly "sad react" to your post because these issues do exist outside of a vacuum. It does matter that she is a Black woman, and that skin color and sex and other categorical demographics are inherently intertwined with how we navigate daily life, including how somebody's reactions are perceived.

I'm not saying I am completely in the right, but it is how I feel.

[Taylucifer 5,154]

first off, everyone go subscribe to her, love her content. 

secondly, y'all calling her angry, that's kinda just how she is, it's called being passionate please stop. If that's the only thing that you can criticise her for then there is evidently something wrong with Haus Labs and you need to admit it. 

thirdly, she literally is not wrong, Haus Labs doesn't give you anything you couldn't get somewhere else, the colours are not unique and the formula isn't established at all, not many people are going to want to try a formula they can't feel first. Gaga really shot herself in the foot selling through amazon and not Sephora (or something similar). 

Haus Labs just doesn't have seemingly any creative direction and that's the problem, when you come out with someone like Gaga as the face of your brand consumers expect to be wowed and shocked.

[chromatic puzea 10,536]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orYztj3NOOY&ab_channel=Paul4.0

[dit 46,483]

she's right. the line has no vision tbh but as long as it makes money for our queen I don't care lol

[Leoooo 2,284]

3 hours ago, Enigma said:

Just because it’s her brand doesn’t mean it’s her company. At the end of the day its owned by a bigger corporation, is partnered with Amazon, and Sarah is doing half the talking... so that leaves very little place for Gaga to actually have the lead, and the creative direction is not convincing me at all that she had much say in this brand.

Watch more videos she's posted about Haus labs and interviews where she talks about it, her and sarah sit and design each product, she calls it sarahs company (probably happy to see someone who 'works for her' suceed on their own as ya know, she cares about them.) She truly is a driving force in that brand and loves it, if you cant see that then you havent looked close enough.

[Jed 7,716]

3 hours ago, Enigma said:

I wish Haus Labs defenders would watch this and try to answer her questions/tell us what we’re missing. She exposed everything that’s wrong with this brand. 

Okay now tell me exactly this: what about your psyche finds such a fundamental flaw with gaga saying “i want to make the makeup company of my dreams” like literally get a better help subscription and find out exactly why a grown woman pursuing her own dreams and interests triggers you so much

[Jed 7,716]

2 minutes ago, Medusa said:

Watch more videos she's posted about Haus labs and interviews where she talks about it, her and sarah sit and design each product, she calls it sarahs company (probably happy to see someone who 'works for her' suceed on their own as ya know, she cares about them.) She truly is a driving force in that brand and loves it, if you cant see that then you havent looked close enough.

In the nikkie tutorials video gaga literally talks about working on and developing “the makeup company of her dreams” so this fanbade literally said “**** your dreams **** your artistic vision”

 

plastic doll is about fans like @Enigma but they are so wrapped up in “what gaga needs to do for her career” that theyve convinced themselves they want whats best for her. When actually they want her to succeed at what they want her to do. They dont care about her dreams or her passions they just want her to continue to feed them with things that they deem acceptable. Gaga went out and inspired all of us to follow our dreams and do what we want and some fans went “aha okay great” and gaga said “okay here are some of my dreams” and those same fans said “umm shes so selfish. Where are her haus labs defenders to tell me that shes not a horrible person for not being who i want her to be”

[Leoooo 2,284]

1 hour ago, Jed said:

In the nikkie tutorials video gaga literally talks about working on and developing “the makeup company of her dreams” so this fanbade literally said “**** your dreams **** your artistic vision”

 

plastic doll is about fans like @Enigma but they are so wrapped up in “what gaga needs to do for her career” that theyve convinced themselves they want whats best for her. When actually they want her to succeed at what they want her to do. They dont care about her dreams or her passions they just want her to continue to feed them with things that they deem acceptable. Gaga went out and inspired all of us to follow our dreams and do what we want and some fans went “aha okay great” and gaga said “okay here are some of my dreams” and those same fans said “umm shes so selfish. Where are her haus labs defenders to tell me that shes not a horrible person for not being who i want her to be”

Lieterally so true. She wants to make a makeup brand that WORKS for her and then in turn many others. She literally has to be plastered in the stuff every single day from other people for like 11 years and has used it herself in her earlier life as a huge form of self expression, more so than MANY of the other 'artists' and celebs who come out with one, but obviously its a 'money grab' Not supporting a friend, team mate, and creating something that will work for something she has used, enjoyed, and made a literal reputation for herself through. If ANYONE should make a makeup brand, its Lady Gaga.

[Jose P 23,341]

Not this turning into a debate about racism lol. Anyways, she did come off as a little angry to me but that’s well within her right, she’s clearly very passionate about the topic and based on other videos that’s just her personality. Also she does seem to dislike Gaga but that’s ok not everyone’s gonna like her, the end.

[Enigma 7,182]

14 minutes ago, Medusa said:

Watch more videos she's posted about Haus labs and interviews where she talks about it, her and sarah sit and design each product, she calls it sarahs company (probably happy to see someone who 'works for her' suceed on their own as ya know, she cares about them.) She truly is a driving force in that brand and loves it, if you cant see that then you havent looked close enough.

I'm sorry but this is a marketing strategy. It's all about convincing you that it's HER brand and that it's a dIfFeREnT company with values and kindness. At the end of the day it's just a corporate scheme with Gaga's face plastered on it. MAYBE she's involved, but it doesn't show in the creative direction and some easily orchestrated videos and interviews aren't proof of anything. Clearly the tactics worked on you.

[Leoooo 2,284]

On 12/9/2020 at 4:44 AM, Enigma said:

I'm sorry but this is a marketing strategy. It's all about convincing you that it's HER brand and that it's a dIfFeREnT company with values and kindness. At the end of the day it's just a corporate scheme with Gaga's face plastered on it. MAYBE she's involved, but it doesn't show in the creative direction and some easily orchestrated videos and interviews aren't proof of anything. Clearly the tactics worked on you.

You see the videos of her and Sarah working on shades with hundereds of pictures in front of them and goes into in depth detail about it,

Yeah? I still believe in Gaga as being a trustworthy and honest artist, sorry?

[Enigma 7,182]

19 minutes ago, Jed said:

Okay now tell me exactly this: what about your psyche finds such a fundamental flaw with gaga saying “i want to make the makeup company of my dreams” like literally get a better help subscription and find out exactly why a grown woman pursuing her own dreams and interests triggers you so much

Holy ****. You're in the cult mentality deep. Gaga is not your mom, relax, take a deep breath. Ok now.

A makeup company is... a company. That means the intent is to sell products. For that you need to attract customers.

Customers have the right to state their opinion? Reviews have existed since FOREVER. That won't change because the love of your life is now a brand owner.

And if you really think the "brand of her dreams" would look like THAT... I have bad news for you...

[Leoooo 2,284]

1 hour ago, Enigma said:

Holy ****. You're in the cult mentality deep. Gaga is not your mom, relax, take a deep breath. Ok now.

A makeup company is... a company. That means the intent is to sell products. For that you need to attract customers.

Customers have the right to state their opinion? Reviews have existed since FOREVER. That won't change because the love of your life is now a brand owner.

And if you really think the "brand of her dreams" would look like THAT... I have bad news for you...

You so clearly dont believe in gaga and her brand, she clearly says the complete opposite to that, very openly. Youre calling HER a liar and everyone who thinks it was made with integrity a mindless cult follower? Honestly babe find somehwere else to post as you are a toxic ****ing fan and you can hate on her somehwere else, maybe the comment section on a video of hers you dont like or something

[Enigma 7,182]

29 minutes ago, Jed said:

In the nikkie tutorials video gaga literally talks about working on and developing “the makeup company of her dreams” so this fanbade literally said “**** your dreams **** your artistic vision”

 

plastic doll is about fans like @Enigma but they are so wrapped up in “what gaga needs to do for her career” that theyve convinced themselves they want whats best for her. When actually they want her to succeed at what they want her to do. They dont care about her dreams or her passions they just want her to continue to feed them with things that they deem acceptable. Gaga went out and inspired all of us to follow our dreams and do what we want and some fans went “aha okay great” and gaga said “okay here are some of my dreams” and those same fans said “umm shes so selfish. Where are her haus labs defenders to tell me that shes not a horrible person for not being who i want her to be”

 

8 minutes ago, Medusa said:

You see the videos of her and Sarah working on shades with hundereds of pictures in front of them and goes into in depth detail about it,

Yeah? I still believe in Gaga as being a trustworthy and honest artist in all forms...sorry? The fact you so CLEARLY dont makes me think you should probably leave gagadaily and stick to instagram hun, your toxic energy is gross for all of us and it's clearly not a space you should be in, I know you have tons of 'likes' and 'rep' points on here, but dont be fooled, if youre not a gaga fan you do NOT deserve to be here. Until she proves me wrong, and she hasnt yet, I'll ****ing stan.

There's a HUGE, HUGE, HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between telling her what she needs to do for her ART (there are no rules in art) and what she needs to do in her MARKETING VENTURE. I care about her achieving her vision in music, but no, I do not care about her money oriented side gigs. ESPECIALLY when it's so obvious that no passion went into it and that she just got signed into it by some wealthy corporation and got pushed by Sarah. You're equating a ****ing makeup company to her feelings and dreams and all of this... you don't know how business works uh? Her brand sucks. That's the cold hard truth. I can sugarcoat it all you want but why would I? You don't see me sugarcoating things when Huda beauty releases a **** palette. They put her face on the brand so we could not criticize it without it seeming like it's about Gaga.

It's not about Gaga. It's about the makeup. The makeup sucks. Period.

You got fooled into this idea that Gaga is over capitalism and that she does everything for the sake of art. To an extent, she does. But she's still a product of capitalism and meant to make money. Some of her ventures, I believe, are genuinely artistic. But some are meant to finance her other projects. If not, she would not sell ****ing rainboots for 120$. She wouldn't have joined that perfume gig that she admitted not caring about. She wouldn't include LG, and Apple in her MVs. She wouldn't make Gaga branded oreos. See, I have no problem with any of those things, but for you to think she's some kind past-capitalism prodigy and that's just cult mentality.

I support her music, her albums, her shows. I even support her corporate gigs when they're well done (the Oreos are super cool!), but Haus Labs is NOT IT. That's my opinion, and the general opinion of the beauty community, so clearly I'm not so crazy for thinking that. Maybe you should stop taking valid criticism so personnally, especially when it's about her uninspired Coty Inc. company.

[Wet Fire 7,592]

I feel like Haus Labs is more about the friendship Gaga has with Sarah. Gaga is not really doing this only for herself.