Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Chromatican said: Important points considering these neoliberals in Congress and in this thread are already running with the completely false narrative that it was BLM protests and "socialism" that caused Dems to lose, rather than their failed leadership strategy that barely even mentioned any actual positive case for what they would actually fight for and do for the American people if given the WH and Congress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lion Heart said: I'm listening to a Harvard Law Professor who is explaining how Republicans in two states can overrule the popular and send a slate of electors to choose Trump as the "true" winner of their state: -Basically, after the election, the state chooses a slate of electors to cast their votes in the Electoral College. The electors usually go to the one who wins the popular vote in that state, but there is a catch. The Republican Legislature in a certain state *could* decide to send an alternate slate of electors and send Republican electors instead of Democrat ones that Biden won. This can happen in two states where Republicans control the Legislature and Governorship: Arizona and Georgia. -In other states where the Republicans have a majority in the Legislature, but have a Democratic Governor, like Pennsylvania, the Republicans *could* send Republican electors to the Electoral College, while the Democratic Governor could send Democratic ones since Biden won that state. However, the Vice President basically oversees this process: if he gets two slate of electors from a certain state like Pennsylvania, then Mike Pence could decide to choose the republican slate of electors as opposed to the democrat ones sent by the Governor. At this point, this may make its way too the Supreme Court, who *may* decided to intervene due to the conflicting slate of electors. Which way they decide to rule, if they decide to take the case, could be all up in the air. Tl;dr: Trump *could* technically steal the election by demanding that Republican Legislators send alternate electors to the Electoral College from Airzona, Georgia, and perhaps Pennsylvania. I believe the PA House Speaker already shut this down, but I need to double check. Prepare yourselves. "Democracy" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Contessa 1,879 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Sometimes the conversations in here are so draining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 31,812 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gagaloo911 said: That's honestly a slippery slope though, giving these companies the ability to outright ban people based on their own standards and opinions. Lies, misleading posts, calls for violence and the like should all be flagged as such, yes, and suspend accounts for a specified time for repeated actions, but really thinking about this and considering it's been proven that social media companies are biased against antiestablishment opinions, views, and people, I don't really like the precedent that starts. I don't care really. If you are for private property, being against private companies making these kind of decisions is VERY hypocritical. Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig09 24,701 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jill said: Newsweek reported rumors about Putin stepping down are false. We lost Argentina is going to buy their vaccine gay engineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 31,812 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, emig09 said: Argentina is going to buy their vacuum You mean vaccine? Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig09 24,701 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Jill said: You mean vaccine? Yes gay engineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickypie101 1,591 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Oh break at work, any news? Are we expecting new totals soon or anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Not to dampen the mood, but one of the other downsides of running a conservative like Biden (aside from the fact that it didn't work at all electorally) is... this: We may have a Dem president, but he's considering filling his cabinet with Republicans. A nightmare. John Kasich is literally a radical right-winger on abortion rights; moderates and their Republican friends are going to ruin lives in their futile attempt to reach out to Republican voters that will never vote for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,755 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Curunir said: I cannot breatheeee lmfaooo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpadesToStart 3,808 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, gabeoz said: Source tweet That’s what happens when you refer to fallen soldiers as losers lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 31,812 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, emig09 said: Yes Idk whatever floats their boat I think having the vaccine outright is better than not having it due to not liking the country that made it. Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunir 7,510 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lion Heart said: I'm listening to a Harvard Law Professor who is explaining how Republicans in two states can overrule the popular and send a slate of electors to choose Trump as the "true" winner of their state: -Basically, after the election, the state chooses a slate of electors to cast their votes in the Electoral College. The electors usually go to the one who wins the popular vote in that state, but there is a catch. The Republican Legislature in a certain state *could* decide to send an alternate slate of electors and send Republican electors instead of Democrat ones that Biden won. This can happen in two states where Republicans control the Legislature and Governorship: Arizona and Georgia. -In other states where the Republicans have a majority in the Legislature, but have a Democratic Governor, like Pennsylvania, the Republicans *could* send Republican electors to the Electoral College, while the Democratic Governor could send Democratic ones since Biden won that state. However, the Vice President basically oversees this process: if he gets two slate of electors from a certain state like Pennsylvania, then Mike Pence could decide to choose the republican slate of electors as opposed to the democrat ones sent by the Governor. At this point, this may make its way too the Supreme Court, who *may* decided to intervene due to the conflicting slate of electors. Which way they decide to rule, if they decide to take the case, could be all up in the air. Tl;dr: Trump *could* technically steal the election by demanding that Republican Legislators send alternate electors to the Electoral College from Airzona, Georgia, and perhaps Pennsylvania. I believe the PA House Speaker already shut this down, but I need to double check. Prepare yourselves. That's cool and all, but it's not going to happen. The reaction by the people to this could literally lead to a civil war and the GOP would not risk this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Jill said: I don't care really. If you are for private property, being against private companies making these kind of decisions is VERY hypocritical. Nahh. Not good enough. Not when these social media companies have become part of the (virtual) public square where people gather, debate, and have discourse. It's only a matter of time before these places are legally considered public and that will simply not be able for them to do that kind of think when it's the modern day public square. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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