FfFfFfFF 58,378 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Researchers have examined the genetics of the Australian labradoodle, revealing that the dogs are mostly poodle. “We were surprised to see that it was really quite dramatic,” said Dr Elaine Ostrander, a co-author of the research from the National Human Genome Research Institute in the US. In recent years there has been a boom in crosses between different breeds, leading to a plethora of Seussian-sounding dogs, from schnoodles (a cross between a schnauzer and poodle) to morkies (a cross between a maltese and yorkshire terrier). Ostrander and colleagues sought to unpick how new breeds are developed by looking at the Australian labradoodle. Writing in the journal Plos Genetics, the team report how they compared the DNA sequence at more than 150,000 random positions in the genomes of Australian labradoodles with the same positions in the genomes of labrador retrievers and standard, miniature and toy poodles. They also looked at these positions in English cocker spaniels, American cocker spaniels and Irish water spaniels, as well as first-generation crosses between labradors and standard poodles. The results revealed that, as expected, the offspring of labradors and standard poodles were genetically a 50:50 mix of the parent breeds. But while there was high genetic diversity among Australian labradoodles, the team say a very different picture emerged. “The thing that we didn’t expect to such a degree was that the Australian labradoodle retains a huge amount of poodle genome and doesn’t retain a lot of the Labrador retriever genome,” said Ostrander. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/sep/10/labradoodle-study-reveals-dogs-are-actually-mostly-poodle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzkill 5,183 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Breeding is SO wrong and inhuman to the animal... it disgusted me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 6,056 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, buzzkill said: Breeding is SO wrong and inhuman to the animal... it disgusted me Uhm, it depends on how you do it. I dont see anything wrong with new breeds as long as no one is getting hurt? Dogs would have done that anyway with or without us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Bardot 3,990 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Debithius said: Uhm, it depends on how you do it. I dont see anything wrong with new breeds as long as no one is getting hurt? Dogs would have done that anyway with or without us. Yeah. Breeding is wrong when you create breeds like pugs, bulldogs or shih tzus who can barely breathe pooiota Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzkill 5,183 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Debithius said: Uhm, it depends on how you do it. I dont see anything wrong with new breeds as long as no one is getting hurt? Dogs would have done that anyway with or without us. In my opinion breed is wrong and inhuman in any case. of course dogs would have the economic nerve to breed just to profit on their pups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,080 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I'm always going to rescue dogs from now on if I choose to get one. But I've had Labradoodles and they are amazing dogs. They are great for people who have allergies because their fur doesn't shed and they have the happy, bouncy temperament of a Labrador. I find it weird that they say they are more poodle because with the two dogs I had, one was as crazy as it's poodle dad and the other was more Labrador. But I find that no 2 Labradoodles are the same. They all have unique personalities and are very interesting dogs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,827 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 my dog is far from poodle He's a rescue mix of lab,collie and newfie So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,378 Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, Debithius said: Uhm, it depends on how you do it. I dont see anything wrong with new breeds as long as no one is getting hurt? Dogs would have done that anyway with or without us. The problem is that these dogs are often times inbred. People want to keep dogs pure race so they only let them mate with dogs of the same breed, which are usually related between themselves. There are also extreme cases when dogs are bred for looking cute and this predisposes them to all sorts of diseases and this is really not ok. For this reason, stray dog are healthier because they have a much bigger genetic pool & the chances for them to be inbred are very low. I always advise people to adopt stray dogs instead of buying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,378 Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, River said: my dog is far from poodle He's a rescue mix of lab,collie and newfie My guess is that my dog is a Karelian bear dog x Border Collie x Labrador x Schipperke mix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,827 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: My guess is that my dog is a Karelian bear dog x Border Collie x Labrador x Schipperke mix. sounds beautiful My dog is like collie size and color, lab face, newfie fur but now after seeing the Karelian bear dog, the pattern is pretty similar So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Guy 09 13,941 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I can attest to this. I have an Australian Labradoodle and she's nothing like a labradore, but so much like a poodle. My mum said she had a poodle when she was a kid and our dog is just like her. We have a miniature Australian labradoodle and she actually has different breeds in her lineage, but she is mostly like a poodle and sometimes like a terrier. She's also extremely clever and energetic - she's so clever that she impresses us everyday Stare at the Chartster in the mirror they talk to me too. #StreamFunTonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJA 5,555 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I have a poodle (cause my parents were allergic) he’s currently 16 years and 5 months old. he’s an old geezer but cute as ever Mr. No Award Winner 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 27,744 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Dogs are amazing, regardless of the breed. She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 6,056 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, buzzkill said: In my opinion breed is wrong and inhuman in any case. of course dogs would have the economic nerve to breed just to profit on their pups. I am talking about nature...even you must know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Debithius said: I am talking about nature...even you must know that. This isnt a case of nature though, this is years of breeding and abuse. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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