Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 55 minutes ago, Esteban said: Christans and muslims share the old testament so Asriel exists in both religions and Israfil is another name for Raphaël. So I don't see the problem, christians are used to see their religion in movies, fashion, music... Muslims dont believe in the old or new testament. Asriel is only mentioned in the Qurana and islam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: no I’m pretty sure he’s somewhere in the Bible, within the Hebrew tribes. In the Old Testament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Just now, Kimihiro said: I’m pretty sure he’s somewhere in the Bible, within the Hebrew tribes. In the Old Testament. Pretty sure? Israfil is only in Islam. Asriel is in Judaism and Islam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Just now, Faysalaaa said: Pretty sure? Israfil is only in Islam. Asriel is in Judaism and Islam. I’m sure. I’ve read the Bible. The Old Testament itself is based on Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible. So if it exists in Judaism, it definitely exists in Christianity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kimihiro said: I’m sure. I’ve read the Bible. The Old Testament itself is based on Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible. So if it exists in Judaism, it definitely exists in Christianity. google.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteban 2,300 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Muslims dont believe in the old or new testament. Asriel is only mentioned in the Qurana and islam. They consider old testament as a saint book, and they use and comment some parts to justify their thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Esteban said: They consider old testament as a saint book, and they use and comment some parts to justify their thoughts No we dont Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteban 2,300 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Faysalaaa said: No we dont https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_et_Bible_hébraïque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: google.com You’re the one who should use Google, or better read beyond whatever it is that you know. It is a generally accepted fact that similar characters do appear between Abrahamic religions. I’ve Googled it just now, Asriel appears in Numbers 26:31, Joshua 17:2 and 1 Chronicles 7:14 on the Christian Bible. IDK if you’re trolling but please stop invalidating other people just because you’re limited by what you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Esteban said: https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_et_Bible_hébraïque The link you gave does not claim what you are saying.. We view the religion of Christianity and Judaism as holy religions, but they are invalid today because we believe their books and religion have been corrupted by time. We dont use the old or new testament to justify our beliefs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kimihiro said: You’re the one who should use Google, or better read beyond whatever it is that you know. It is a generally accepted fact that similar characters do appear between Abrahamic religions. I’ve Googled it just now, Asriel appears in Numbers 26:31, Joshua 17:2 and 1 Chronicles 7:14 on the Christian Bible. IDK if you’re trolling but please stop invalidating other people just because you’re limited by what you know. Yes I do invalitate people who give out false information. And yeah I know Asriel is in Judaism and Christianity, thats literally what I said: 15 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Pretty sure? Israfil is only in Islam. Asriel is in Judaism and Islam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Just now, Faysalaaa said: Yes I do invalitate people who give out false information. And yeah I know Asriel is in Judaism and Christianity, thats literally what I said: You literally replied this when I said that Asriel exists in Christianity: 24 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kimihiro said: You literally replied this when I said that Asriel exists in Christianity: OK then thats my mistake, I meant the other angel. I did try to clarify that I meant Israfil though. Anyway lets move on.. My argument is Kanye did use a islamic angel or whatever to name his shoes. Personally I dont care as a Muslim let him do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFDMQ 3,397 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I think the reason people get offended by it is not so much because of the name, but rather his intention for using it. It's pretty obvious that he wanted to use a controversial name to get free publicity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampool 5,560 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 He’s a rat. We been knew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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