Eighteen 5,430 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 for clarification: i'm of the belief that people say one thing in the polls on issues and then vote in a totally different way. like i'm sure that most republicans love social security and yet they vote republican who are pretty much against any kind of government safety net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 and most people are of course in favor of bringing down healthcare costs but they don't vote that way like ;ladlkjf WHATEVER i'm not a teacher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannaeDrive 3,412 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Of course some media are going for the cheap drama over a convention procedure, just lame and stupid when you know how many Dem Conventions occurred since 1852 "Fame Is A Boomerang" - Maria Callas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRCF29 8,230 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 And what is the DNCC? Don't Call Me Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,681 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Eighteen said: i actually don't listen to CNN or MSNBC i read the paper. lol. and my post was in defense of AOC so idk why you're coming at me. and lastly, for the ten thousandth time, i voted for warren and would've gone sanders hadn't he lost. when are people gonna realize that people just aren't voting for the far left (which in my mind means most people aren't far left) like.... tf I wasn’t really coming for you but I just have to say that The whole problem is that the media is like “oh Bernie is too extreme too win,” but people want big changes, and they could get it if they just voted with their conscience. They said the same thing about Obama so I cannot believe they’re doing it again with 2020’s progressives, and they actually got away with it... like what happened? we all need to acknowledge that if you look at the ads cable news is receiving, it’s obvious that the things Warren and Bernie fought against are the reason they’re on air. hey are not objective (oh and by the way Bernie’s not far left, far left is communism. He’s kinda socialist which is in between capitalism and communism so...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Retweet This is procedural. Chill yall, she immediately tweeted a Joe endorsement I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: I wasn’t really coming for you but I just have to say that The whole problem is that the media is like “oh Bernie is too extreme too win,” but people want big changes, and they could get it if they just voted with their conscience. They said the same thing about Obama so I cannot believe they’re doing it again with 2020’s progressives, and they actually got away with it... like what happened? we all need to acknowledge that if you look at the ads cable news is receiving, it’s obvious that the things Warren and Bernie fought against are the reason they’re on air. hey are not objective (oh and by the way Bernie’s not far left, far left is communism. He’s kinda socialist which is in between capitalism and communism so...) yeah, well it depends from what view you're taking it. i usually narrow it down to the political dynamics of the USA. so like bernie warren and whoever else, AOC, i consider the far left. but yeah if you're talking about a macro view of politics as a whole, then yeah bernie would just be left and communism would be far left. i think they need to get the money out of the media. i wouldn't go as far as to say that CNN and MSNBC are fake news (that would certainly be a lot of the programming on fox which is very very bad and almost does a disservice to how bad it is to even compare it with CNN and MSNBC), but their coverage needs a lot of reforming. like in 2016, CNN helped trump get elected AND they reported on russian interference ONCE. i remember seeing that report and being like... how is that not headline news every day. it wasn't until after trump won that the story got big iirc. like... GOOD JOB, CNN you ****s. honestly, as of right now, trump must leave. but seeing bernie sanders make his speech yesterday... he is a much better politician (policy aside) than biden who is... weak at best... and eh... i guess the country's just not ready for it yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 i like rachel maddow though she has a good show (well, when i used to watch it last year) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,681 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Eighteen said: yeah, well it depends from what view you're taking it. i usually narrow it down to the political dynamics of the USA. so like bernie warren and whoever else, AOC, i consider the far left. but yeah if you're talking about a macro view of politics as a whole, then yeah bernie would just be left and communism would be far left. i think they need to get the money out of the media. i wouldn't go as far as to say that CNN and MSNBC are fake news (that would certainly be a lot of the programming on fox which is very very bad and almost does a disservice to how bad it is to even compare it with CNN and MSNBC), but their coverage needs a lot of reforming. like in 2016, CNN helped trump get elected AND they reported on russian interference ONCE. i remember seeing that report and being like... how is that not headline news every day. it wasn't until after trump won that the story got big iirc. like... GOOD JOB, CNN you ****s. honestly, as of right now, trump must leave. but seeing bernie sanders make his speech yesterday... he was a much better politician (policy aside) than biden who is... weak at best... and eh... i guess the country's just not ready for it yet CNN and MSNBC are not fake news, but when it comes to politics, they’re extremely damaging to democracy, immune to critizing Dems when they should, and make people feel crazy for asking what the rest of the developed world has. It’s the negative framing with progressive ideology and cherry picked facts for me... The country is ready for change, but they were lead to believe they couldn’t have both change and no Trump. Bernie could have sweeped Trump and polls suggested that. I just hope Biden does move to the left, but I highly doubt it. 4 more years of needless suffering... it’s so sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, Eighteen said: for clarification: i'm of the belief that people say one thing in the polls on issues and then vote in a totally different way. like i'm sure that most republicans love social security and yet they vote republican who are pretty much against any kind of government safety net. Republicans love Social programs like Medicare For All. But when its presented by a socialist whos anti capitalist and anti guns, obviously they wont support it. Because supporting that means other things they care about more will be taken away from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Republicans love Social programs like Medicare For All. But when its presented by a socialist whos anti capitalist and anti guns, obviously they wont support it. Because supporting that means other things they care about more will be taken away from them. might be true but idk if most of the voters are that coherent when thinking about policy. like.... i feel like if you went up and asked all of republicans: did you know that republicans despise SS? i feel like a lot (if not most) of republicans wouldn't know that. which is why, in my opinion, they kinda keep that on the down low and are relatively quiet about it. in other words, trump goes on the stump and says he loves social security, when in reality i don't believe he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,681 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Republicans love Social programs like Medicare For All. But when its presented by a socialist whos anti capitalist and anti guns, obviously they wont support it. Because supporting that means other things they care about more will be taken away from them. I wish people realized socialism is part capitalist and that Bernie was actually a moderate on guns... ykno Bernie could have messaged a lot better. I won’t ever say he’s completely faultless, but the manufactured uphill battle is so unnecessary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 She should be the first female president Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Chile anyways Let‘s change the title please, or lock this down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevana229 1,916 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 AOC is just giving republicans more ammunition. not good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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