chromaticainmyhead 5,463 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 the 80s were a different time. lol I hardly believe anyone in their early 20s now being so loud in this thread would survive freshly moving to NYC in the 80s with no smart phone, no internet and that little money, especially when you were a woman. Have you ever had dreams of making it big? Now imagine being in the 80s, growing up in the middle of nowhere. She literally is the reason why many of us know it is possible. fan-tas-tique, chic, freak, slaaaay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo 7,623 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 hours ago, buzzkill said: But to put in perspective m, if gaga said âi made it without insta, tiktok and etc...â lt wouldnât made sense. Its not like Madonna paid her studio time with the $35 dollars tho. The entertainment industry changed and grew a lot in the last fews years, the celebrity culture (which madonna helped create grew a lot too, and she did a lot more than $35 from that i may say). Its so hypocrite to made statements like this. and of course she should be proud of her perfect and success career! girl don't know how long you been here but at the beginning of her career Gaga wouldn't get tired of saying how she dropped NYU and lived in a cockroach infested apartment and how hard it was to earn money from gogo dancing when we all knew her parents were rich and she could easily call them back and ask for money, she didn't and that's it's what she's proud of so I don't know why Madonna can't be proud of her leaving everything to pursue her dream and obviously the $35 is metaforic  damn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzkill 3,948 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Ricardo said: girl don't know how long you been here but at the beginning of her career Gaga wouldn't get tired of saying how she dropped NYU and lived in a cockroach infested apartment and how hard it was to earn money from gogo dancing when we all knew her parents were rich and she could easily call them back and ask for money, she didn't and that's it's what she's proud of so I don't know why Madonna can't be proud of her leaving everything to pursue her dream and obviously the $35 is metaforic  damn So? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,256 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ricardo said: girl don't know how long you been here but at the beginning of her career Gaga wouldn't get tired of saying how she dropped NYU and lived in a cockroach infested apartment and how hard it was to earn money from gogo dancing when we all knew her parents were rich and she could easily call them back and ask for money, she didn't and that's it's what she's proud of so I don't know why Madonna can't be proud of her leaving everything to pursue her dream and obviously the $35 is metaforic  damn Also adding that Gagaâs dad helped pay for her apartment that she lived in *by herself* on Manhattan in the village. Thatâs expensive af lmao People love an American folktale but the reality is always a bit more complicated. The only one I can think of that actually comes to mind is Janelle MonĂĄe since her parents and family had *nothing* resembling wealth or contacts, but they did encourage her a lot. Then she went to NY then Atlanta and did her thing.  however, look at the stark difference in star power. Gaga is gigantic whereas Janelle, who I would say is absolutely her equal with respect to talent, ability, and work ethic, has yet to have a #1, yet to receive a Grammy. Has not gotten an Emmy. Has *not* had these gigantic world tours. Sheâs thankfully getting her due now but even still, itâs not quite as big. That is the power of contacts and privilege. Itâs perfectly fine to have privilege. You donât control that, but being aware of it is important. Idk Madonnaâs story, but I would reckon she had a place to go when she landed in NYC and didnât just arrive homeless, ya know? That is itself a privilege of sorts. Again, does *not* mean she didnât work hard whatsoever. Iâd never dispute that, but it paints a more realistic, if less awe-inspiring narrative for how she got to where she is. Hell, she might not even be aware of privileges that came her way. That also doesnât negate the struggles she had, which we know were many, but like I said, it puts them into perspective. It takes this dreamerâs story and makes it a tangible roadmap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 20,008 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 So was she homeless for a while? Doesnt look homeless in that pic lol. No support from anybody? Totally self made? How can one make it in nyc on 35 dollars with no support from others... Kylie jenner vibes lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3562136 743 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 The people here who have not accomplished 1/5Â of what this woman has achieved trying to be sassy queens Barbie Career Doll 2020 Edition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubblegum Bitch 18,934 Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 86,466 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 OMG, Madonna could post "a" and you guys would babble on for months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Bardot 3,990 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 is she wrong tho? pooiota Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 10 hours ago, DavieX said: Also love gaga she is my fave but she can only dream of getting to where Madonna is now.  Oscar, 2 Golden Globes, 11 Grammys, a bafta. Madonna attempted all of these but couldnât do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonIight 1,372 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Runway said: Oscar, 2 Golden Globes, 11 Grammys, a bafta. Madonna attempted all of these but couldnât do it They meant impact wise, which Gaga really could only dream of achieving that kind of cultural impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1trus 4,230 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Y'all can argue for the specifics but we can't deny the fact that her career as "Madonna" started from the time when it's HARDER  to get in touch with people because of lower technology at that time and yet she managed to slay. Respect for that.  Κ'Đź ĎĎ ââΚΡg ŇŻĎĎ Ń sŃŃΚΡgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTea 2,970 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 She's correct, Gaga is one of these stars that didn't need a platform (Disney, Voice etc.) to become a star. That's why I have a lack of respect towards these stars that came from Disney or such, they feel manufactured and nothing original. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Most arenât aware, but Madonna actually invented Disney. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 fvck all of you ignorant little bitches  Yall are the reason why im streaming Rebel Heart every night instead of Chromatica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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