Should Gaga have released the OG LG5?

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

No

[ChromeAngel 3,230]

No because it was necessary she shed the persona of being a popstar. It was a strategic move and an effective one 

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,443]

There is literally no "original LG5" 

Sure, there's a few songs we didn't hear but that doesn't mean the concept of the album was any different. 

There are always rejected tracks, and tracks that were added last minute/despite not being coherent with the concept

[Mr S 8,672]

We'd have to hear the sound first. If it was cool and trendy, then yeah it was a mistake to shelve it because Joanne was a missed the mark. But if it was more cringey stuff then it's good nobody heard it.

[Animal Claws 18,665]

4 hours ago, M Monstre said:

I really don't understand the obsession with the OG LG5. Can y'all just let it go?  

Same thing with Frankensteined and all of the other unreleased songs from that era. Y'all are only excited because RedOne hyped it up. Like...he worked on the damn thing  What's he going to say? "Yeah, actually none of it was that good, so that's why we cancelled the project." Of course he's going to hype it up.

Frankenstein is the only song that RedOne hyped up tbh, even the radio people were shooked about the song. Everyone loved it.

RO also said Gaga was obsessed with the song, it's like a modern recreation of her past eras.

[Doot 2]

She just needs to put those songs and the ones she did with DJWS for Chromatica in my Dropbox. 

I'll DM you the link Gaga. 

[REALITY 76,588]

5 minutes ago, Animal Claws said:

Frankenstein is the only song that RedOne hyped up tbh, even the radio people were shooked about the song. Everyone loved it.

RO also said Gaga was obsessed with the song, it's like a modern recreation of her past eras.

 I mean, we'll never know though. Radio people also hyped up plenty of other songs too. Remember when some radio people raved that PI was going to be the next "smash dance hit," or whatever? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely loved PI (and I still do), but radio people also will hype up pretty much everything.

I just think that this obsession with songs like Frankensteined and the OG LG5 is too unhealthy. Just let that stuff be in the past.

[socotra 3,310]

5 hours ago, Suspiria said:

Why do people always say this?

Joanne was her worst selling solo album, and received average reviews (her second worst reviewed solo album on metacritic). The one "hit", MR, was promoted to death and still only reached the top 10 for one week after SBHTS (the biggest promo on earth), then immediately vanished from the charts.

She had already signed on to do ASIB well before Joanne was released, and the Superbowl was pretty much agreed upon by summer 2016, as we saw in 5ft2.

 

I'm sure she gained some new fans from it, but she lost plenty too. I feel confident saying Joanne did nothing for her career, positive or negative. It just... exists.

YESSSS thank you!

If Frankenstein('d?) is as good as it's purported to be, and if the rest of the album is Heal Me/The Cure-esque bops (which appears to be the writing headspace she was in roughly around this time), I can't imagine Joanne having been a better career choice.

I personally enjoyed Joanne, I'm here for whatever Gagz puts out and I actually really enjoy the genre switches (I've loved Cheek to Cheek as much as Jewels N Drugs as much as Stupid Love), but GOD Joanne as an album has never made any sense to me.

Not to relitigate it, but I almost feel like she was more confused on what Joanne was supposed to be than she was with ARTPOP. At least with "My ARTPOP could mean anything" and "I'm every icon" you could kinda see that at least some part of the concept was intentionally unwieldy/disparate.

Joanne, tho, was ostensibly made to heal her father... but she continuously dropped the "I am Joanne" line that only sorta made sense when she said it, but then made even less sense when they put out those promo images on walls of the floating pink hat and something like, "You are Joanne too" (and I can't find the pic but they painted it on brick walls in LA)). Like, what the hell?

Then the album itself is such a weird mix of tracks. You have what makes up the bulk of the album, stripped back country-tinged tracks (Sinner's Prayer, MR, Joanne, A-Yo, John Wayne, Grigio Girls) mixed in with the more glam-rock type (Diamond Heart, Come to Mama, Just Another Day) – and if that was the album, it'd make a lot more sense (at least sonically).

But then you throw in Perfect Illusion, Dancin in Circles, Angel Down, and Hey Girl, and it's like, these could be from completely different albums. ESPECIALLY Dancin in Circles is such a weird ****ing addition on the album that was clearly meant to throw a bone to the fans who would never be able to stomach a full-on country record, but it's like – either go all in or don't do it at all.

And I think that's my biggest issue with Joanne – it felt like she "frankensteined" a bunch of different ideas together. She said, "I'm gonna go stripped back, but ooh, let's do some campy rock songs cuz that's kinda stripped back too, but country could also be stripped back, but throw in a sad ballad for good measure, but also it wouldn't be an album of mine without a masturbation song. But also I want my own Uptown Funk, let's bring in Mark Ronson. Is it stripped back enough?" And what we got was an album that was trying to be a bunch of different things at once ostensibly under the guise of a more "acoustic" sound for her, but that was ultimately too insecure to stand on its own two feet, so had the whole "I'm my dad's sister" narrative spun onto it.

and yet I do genuinely enjoy each song on is own. Just together, it makes absolutely no sense for me. So, as the user I quoted said, Joanne is the album in her discography that is neither a negative or a positive – it seriously just exists (or might as well not exist, I doubt much of the GP remembers it happened).

tl;dr – She might as well have released the original LG5 since Joanne was ultimately a phantom album.