ALGAYDO 35,115 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, Whispering said: A vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for Trump. Don't complain about Trump winning, if you helped vote him into office. By that logic, a vote for anyone but Trump is also a vote for Biden lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Democrats 2020 said: She's a nobody. It's okay to disagree with her politics but to speak of her in such an elitist way is so disrespectful if not racist and you should really reevaluate the way you talk about people you disagree with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: Okay. So if you think the party should unite, do you think that it would be appropriate for the DNC and Biden folks to compromise on something to appease the progressive coalition? If so, why do you think that the party continues to refuse to make any real policy concessions and why should progressives vote with the party if that is the case? Like honestly all I am asking for is medicare for all and the green new deal. Preferably I would like Joe's stance on Israel vs Palestine to be different, his approach to trade and china among other issues. However, there is zero indication to me that Biden's administration is going to make the concessions I'm looking for and I think that is appropriate to demand. In fact, as I understand it, there are Bernie delegates who plan to vote against the platform if it does not include medicare for all. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/bernie-supporters-medicare-single-payer-381972 I'm sorry, while I do think MFA is a good idea, people in the US want a choice. If you don't believe that look at all the crazy people coughing on babies because they are forced to wear masks. At the end of the day we want to win the election. I am not saying that you are not fighting for a noble cause but at some point we need to compromise and then continue fighting. Change doesn't happen overnight. And that's all I'm going to say because I like your opinions on other subjects that isn't politics. So if you feel I am bullying you I want you to know that this is the last comment about politics you'll get directed to you from me and I'm sorry we can't see eye to eye on this. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence 1,444 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 8 hours ago, M Monstre said: Biden has plenty of problems and is far from the best choice. That said, if people are undecided or thinking about voting for Trump, then that’s far, far worse. If you can’t see that Biden AT THE VERY LEAST would be better than what Trump has been able to do for the past 4 years, then I don’t know what to tell you... no one said i wasnt gonna vote for him. i literally have no choice. im just pointing out the ppl who cant stand for someone to talk negative about biden as if that means im gonna vote for Dump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, JusKeepBreathin said: I'm sorry, while I do think MFA is a good idea, people in the US want a choice. If you don't believe that look at all the crazy people coughing on babies because they are forced to wear masks. At the end of the day we want to win the election. I am not saying that you are not fighting for a noble cause but at some point we need to compromise and then continue fighting. Change doesn't happen overnight. And that's all I'm going to say because I like your opinions on other subjects that isn't politics. So if you feel I am bullying you I want you to know that this is the last comment about politics you'll get directed to you from me and I'm sorry we can't see eye to eye on this. I will do the same. I know there are things we could agree on and in a different situation where the stakes weren't so high I'm sure we would be able to find a middle ground. I am more than aware that I am very stubborn with regards to politics and that I don't go into these discussions with intent to compromise. That's not to say that anything you or others have said to me hasn't been productive or meaningful to me. Let's reconnect another time when it's not so emotionally charged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,235 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: By that logic, a vote for anyone but Trump is also a vote for Biden lmao Incumbent presidents are historically hard to vote out, so yes, if a voter casts a ballot for anyone besides the opposing party nominee, that will indirectly help the sitting president. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, djBuffoon said: Incumbent presidents are historically hard to vote out, so yes, if a voter casts a ballot for anyone besides the opposing party nominee, that will indirectly help the sitting president. I would normally agree with you but Trump's approval rating is getting closer and closer to the low of Bush Jr, which is alarming considering his approval was "decent" just a few months ago. This is not a normal time period and the conventional wisdom isn't going to have the same relevance that it normally does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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