Katy Perry's "Smile" debuts at #96 in UK Charts

[BlondeQueenOfGGD 25,454]

I think the problem is that people already know what any new Katy song will sound like, so they don’t bother. Unfortunately she’s very predictable and boring.. no disrespect intended.

[Adelita 3,177]

35 minutes ago, Xoxo Adriana said:

i’m sorry but you need to do some serious soul searching sis. the risks of covid increase heavier with pregnant women, hence why i mentioned it. and literally nobody is travelling promoting music right now so who is “everyone else” exactly?regardless of whether the song is flopping or not - i can admit myself the song isn’t doing great, but she’s at least putting as much effort in as a pregnant woman than most artists would do w no pregnancy. she even filmed a video while pregnant and at the peak of covid. that is called DEDICATION.

if you and a couple of these other twelvies wanna play this childish 2013 game of “whos a flop and who not”, i cant stop you from doing that, live your truth i guess. but this just makes majority of our fanbase who don’t wanna get caught up in stan wars look bad. it isn’t fair on the ones just listening to the music and NOT the drama.

Dedication has nothing to do with charts performance. The 3 clips + an acoustic version + 2 remixes + 10 performances didn't stop Daisies from leaving the Hot 100 in only 7 weeks (and I don't even know how this song stayed more than 4 weeks on the Hot 100, since the performance on streaming, radio and pure sales was ridiculously bad, did Amazon Music receive checks from Katy again the same way they did to increase the streams of Cozy Little Christmas back on Christmas 2018?) .

 

She did the impossible and spread far beyond what a pregnant woman could in the middle of a pandemic (and I don't even think she is giving that much importance to the virus, because a pregnant woman who really thinks about her child would never perform several times in several different places with this virus on the loose, her greed for the charts is bigger than anything).

[Popo 3,781]

@Haroon must be the only one streaming this song it seems

[Xoxo Adriana 15,040]

24 minutes ago, Adelita said:

I am using data from 2017 because Spotify Data only provides data from 2017 onwards, and the difference in streams from 2016 to 2017 wasn't big. You were caught lying, saying that Spotify is bigger today than it was years ago, which is not true, because even with the pandemic (a flawed argument, since according to you, more people are at home streaming and also that Spotify is supposed to be bigger nowadays (??)). Today's streams are much smaller than they were years ago. Look at the numbers before you go out there lying to defend your favs.

 

I'm not trying to prove that Katy flopped, because that's a fact. And I am, I'm enjoying the deserved success Gaga is having this year, which has nothing to do with the fact that Katy is flopping. Nobody needs to prove something that everybody already knows.

 

And what does the fact that she's pregnant have to do with the fact that she's failing? She has literally performed Daisies/NRO on over 10 different shows, released 3 videos for this song + an acoustic version + 2 remixes, and even for Smile she released a studio-produced video, what else could she do? Perform the songs on the moon or on Mars? Also it's more than obvious that her fans will say that Smile isn't a single after this horrendous performance, even though Katy herself called this song a single in her Instagram: "SMILE: THE SINGLE — OUT NOW"

 

And who really needs to grow up here is you, to learn to deal with facts about that Katy has been flopping since 2014 and also have to learn to stop lying compulsively thinking no one's gonna check the data and find out the truth.

 

Katy is flopping because she didn't have the capacity to reinvent herself and the gp got tired of her pastel comedy and the same lame old songs. As i said, no excuses.

- if stupid love, a song that was released 5 months ago, was a huge hit and isn’t charting currently, what does that say for MR - a song that didn’t perform as well as SL? 2017 stats will not do justice for a song that charted in 2016!! both are amazing songs not denying that, but you can’t compare a song that was released months before 2017 even hit!

id be very intrigued to know if you’re “enjoying” gaga’s success right now, then why feel the need to comment on a KATY thread about her flopping? that makes literally no sense. we are all enjoying gaga’s successful 2020 but if you’re enjoying it that much why is katy even coming into the equation? let it go!

she never called smile the second single and you’re right she said “the new single” because it IS a single! she never even implied it was the second official single, hence why even on the day of it’s release we were already told it wasn’t being sent to radio. this is where she herself made the mistake, if she hadve sent it to radio along with more promo outside of social media (as gaga did) the song would’ve had more potential.

i put her pregnancy into this because she is doing an album cycle WHILE PREGNANT, which makes everything 10x harder! imagine all the work, recording, photo shoots, performances and planning she would’ve had to have done whilst having the things that come with being pregnant. not many female artists have done this, and the ones who have aren’t as huge as Katy, cutting her some slack is easy but y’all aren’t ready for that conversation

”learn to deal with the facts that katy has been flopping since 2014”...girl do you hear how childish that sounds? i didn’t ONCE deny katy wasn’t performing well, but is it really necessary what you’re saying? katy was touring the PRISMATIC tour...aka the biggest and highest grossing tour of her CAREER in 2014 that lasted till end of 2015, and you also forget Chained to the Rhythm had pretty good success in early 2017 despite Witness simply not performing to the standards of her previously high charting records.

as @Nuggets said earlier, make it make sense 

18 minutes ago, Sherry1411 said:

Not you guys tearing Gaga down to make Katy feel better. Where's the loyalty? 

not you thinking katy isn’t getting it bad compared to gaga. the people who are defending katy are purely doing it out of fairness. i would be saying the same thing to katycats who were bashing gaga. tearing women down isn’t loyal. if you think we aren’t being loyal for defending katy over unfair childish comments then what’s your point? make it MAKE sense.

[Nuggets 14,188]

 

38 minutes ago, Adelita said:

No one is being negative here, we are being honest and realistic: Katy is flopping, it's a fact, whether you like it or not.

The users you called negative were also honest and realistic yet, you were calling them out. What's up with that?

Or was it different to you since they were talking about Gaga and not Katy?

You can keep lying and say you're not being negative and couldn't care less about what Katy's doing but the fact that you're so obsessed that you know everything about her stats, chart performances, the exact number of remixes she has put out and performances speaks volumes.

38 minutes ago, Adelita said:

And what exactly would "my place" be? 

Right here.

Sit on it and shut up.

[Adelita 3,177]

3 minutes ago, Xoxo Adriana said:

- if stupid love, a song that was released 5 months ago, was a huge hit and isn’t charting currently, what does that say for MR - a song that didn’t perform as well as SL? 2017 stats will not do justice for a song that charted in 2016!! both are amazing songs not denying that, but you can’t compare a song that was released months before 2017 even hit!

id be very intrigued to know if you’re “enjoying” gaga’s success right now, then why feel the need to comment on a KATY thread about her flopping? that makes literally no sense. we are all enjoying gaga’s successful 2020 but if you’re enjoying it that much why is katy even coming into the equation? let it go!

she never called smile the second single and you’re right she said “the new single” because it IS a single! she never even implied it was the second official single, hence why even on the day of it’s release we were already told it wasn’t being sent to radio. this is where she herself made the mistake, if she hadve sent it to radio along with more promo outside of social media (as gaga did) the song would’ve had more potential.

i put her pregnancy into this because she is doing an album cycle WHILE PREGNANT, which makes everything 10x harder! imagine all the work, recording, photo shoots, performances and planning she would’ve had to have done whilst having the things that come with being pregnant. not many female artists have done this, and the ones who have aren’t as huge as Katy, cutting her some slack is easy but y’all aren’t ready for that conversation

”lean to deal with the facts that katy has been flopping since 2014”...girl do you hear how childish that sounds? i didn’t ONCE deny katy wasn’t performing well, but is it really necessary what you’re saying? katy was touring the PRISMATIC tour...aka the biggest and highest grossing tour of her CAREER in 2014 that lasted till end of 2015, and you also forget Chained to the Rhythm had pretty good success in early 2017 despite Witness simply not performing to the standards of her previously high charting records.

as @Nuggets said earlier, make it make sense 

not you thinking katy isn’t getting it bad compared to gaga. the people who are defending katy are purely doing it out of fairness. i would be saying the same thing to katycats who were bashing gaga. tearing women down isn’t loyal. if you think we aren’t being loyal for defending katy over unfair childish comments then what’s your point? make it MAKE sense.

 

Million Reasons didn't perform well at first because there was no investment in playlists, and you can't get a hit in the streaming era without it (unless it's a polemic hit that lasts only a week like the 6ix9ine songs/videos), if you knew the minimum about charts you'd know that.

 

I'm loving Gaga's success, and I'm talking about Katy who's flopping because if you don't know, we're on a topic about the horrible performance of Katy new single, which is flopping all over the world. Wake up. 

 

As I said before, it's obvious that neither she nor the fans will say that Smile is the second single after this messy performance arround the world. She'll keep releasing songs and the one that does best, she, and the fans, will call it the second single. By the way, on Wikipedia her fans put NRO as LEAD SINGLE, even though she literally said that Daisies is the LEAD SINGLE of the album Smile. 

 

I know that being recorded makes everything harder, but for her it doesn't seem to matter. She doesn't care about coronavirus, because if she were a conscious pregnant woman, she would never leave home, let alone perform in every space she found available, in the middle of a pandemic. This lie does not fool anyone, her greed for charts is greater than her own life and that of her daughter.

 

And yes, I'm saying that because I want it and I'm free to do it. She's pregnant, not sick or bedridden. And about you trying to deny the fact that she's been failing since 2014: give up, the numbers say the opposite of what you try to impose.

[Adelita 3,177]

9 minutes ago, Nuggets said:

 

The users you called negative were also honest and realistic yet, you were calling them out. What's up with that?

Or was it different to you since they were talking about Gaga and not Katy?

You can keep lying and say you're not being negative and couldn't care less about what Katy's doing but the fact that you're so obsessed that you know everything about her stats, chart performances, the exact number of remixes she has put out and performances, speaks volumes.

Right here.

Sit on it and shut up.

 

I only know about the stuff Katy released because lms post here at GGD. I don't give a **** about her and her work these days, as well as the rest of the world. 

 

And I'm not going to shut up, who should shut up here is you who's another alienated Katy fan, and who thinks it's 2013, where she was still relevant on the charts.

 

Stay mad. 

[Nuggets 14,188]

36 minutes ago, Adelita said:

 

I only know about the stuff Katy released because lms post here at GGD. I don't give a **** about her and her work these days, as well as the rest of the world.

• You knew about all of her performances and remixes. Your excuse of "I know about those things thanks to GGD" ain't holding up. I'm sure no user here would be able to name the exact number of performances and remixes she's put out like you did, please 

• You know all about her stats and chart performances

• You even bothered to check Smile's playlist reach on Spotify

And you're still trying to sell me the idea you don't care? Uh huh, sure joanne.

36 minutes ago, Adelita said:

You're another alienated Katy fan, and who thinks it's 2013, where she was still relevant on the charts.

Never claimed she was still successful, that is something you came up with.

Another lie in the casket for Ms. Adelita 

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2 hours ago, Xoxo Adriana said:

i’m sorry but you need to do some serious soul searching sis. the risks of covid increase heavier with pregnant women, hence why i mentioned it. and literally nobody is travelling promoting music right now so who is “everyone else” exactly?regardless of whether the song is flopping or not - i can admit myself the song isn’t doing great, but she’s at least putting as much effort in as a pregnant woman than most artists would do w no pregnancy. she even filmed a video while pregnant and at the peak of covid. that is called DEDICATION.

if you and a couple of these other twelvies wanna play this childish 2013 game of “whos a flop and who not”, i cant stop you from doing that, live your truth i guess. but this just makes majority of our fanbase who don’t wanna get caught up in stan wars look bad. it isn’t fair on the ones just listening to the music and NOT the drama.

Exactly what i said. Shes not expected to travel just like anyone esle is not, due to the pandemic. No one is traveling but they topping the charts and shes not... I ddnt read the thesis sis. But the first few lines i think u misunderstood what i sad about her being preg 

[Lucas 27,181]

I think she's going through the biggest flop of a big pop star from the 2010's. If you told me this in 2013, I'd never believe it...

[franminervini 16,998]

The thing I don't understand is why she's putting out a record while being pregnant? Does she really need to do that now? I would be enjoying my pregnancy at home and even more nowadays with the coronavirus situation. I am sorry but doing what she is doing right now looks really forced and unnecessary...