REALITY 76,749 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Maleficent said: Ur a jumble of contradictions The lack of any sort of reading comprehension you have is astonishing Ā You said:Ā "Also the bogus claims thatĀ @M MonstreĀ makes saying that only rape/assault can cause PTSD/need for therapy is bogus." I then responded and asked you to tell me where I saidĀ thatĀ rape/sexual assault are the only things that make you get PTSD. You responded with a quote that that had nothing to do with the conversation. I said that a bad first-time sex story isn't solely enough to cause PTSD and therapy sessions. That's just a true statement. Sure, there could be other things compounded upon that bad first-timeĀ sex story, but that bad first-timeĀ sex story isn't the ONLY reason someone has to go to therapy.Ā And when I say "bad first-time sex story," you do realize I'm talking about bad, laughable, and embarassing sex, right? Like, the-guy-couldn't-last-more-than-2-minutes kind of "bad" sex stories, right? I'm not talking about ****ing sexual assault.Ā Sexual assault/rape can DEFINITELY cause PTSD and multiple therapy sessions, not the fact that your boyfriend couldn't last more than 2 minutes.Ā šš¬š¬š”šš¶š¢, ā'š©š© š°š¢š¢ š¶š¬š² š¦š« šŖš¶ š”šÆš¢ššŖš° Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 6 hours ago, M Monstre said: What does she have to gain from all of this? Again, not commenting on the OP, but it's been all over Hollywood for years how people go and fck celebrities, ruin relationships and marriages, break up families, make accusations, ruin careers, not giving a **** that they could be proved wrong in the end.Ā They do it for their 15 minutes of fame.Ā Many of these people try to do stuff like this so that the celebrities will settle out of court if there isn't enough evidence either way, so they can make some cash.Ā Reminds me of a plot line in One Tree Hill where some chick was all over the main guy at a party, positioned it in a way to make it look like he did something to her, went to the media and made all these claims, and there wasn't enough evidence to prove otherwise, so he chose to pay her off to make it go away.Ā At the end, it was proven (in a dramatic tv show way) that she WAS lying and was doing it for the Fame and money.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, M Monstre said: bad first-timeĀ sex story isn't the ONLY reason someone has to go to therapy.Ā And when I say "bad first-time sex story," you do realize I'm talking about bad, laughable, and embarassing sex, right? Like, the-guy-couldn't-last-more-than-2-minutes kind of "bad" sex stories, right? I'm not talking about ****ing sexual assault.Ā So you change your claims half way thru your argument and try to turn in on my reading comprehension. Please.Ā why are you policing mental health and dictating whatās appropriate to seek professional help and whatās not.Ā i really donāt know why youāre ready with pitchforks reared for Ansel when everything we know for fact, points to Ansel having done almost nothing wrong (other than being rude).Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, Maleficent said: Then you canāt blame Ansel for not reading her mind eitherĀ Ā she was a more-than-willing partner up until a pointĀ and they had spoken about sex multiple times before, he didnāt come out of left field and force her to have sex. He wasnāt a strangerĀ Just because she met up with him with the intent to have sex doesn't mean she was ready to once they were actually together in person. In her written account of the events she said "I didn't want to do it" so that implies that he coerced her. He could have read her body language and sensed that she was frozen and dissociated. She also said she was sobbing with pain. So he couldn't see or hear her cry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHMLover2 706 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, RAMROD said: Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā He is that guy from The Fault In Our Stars, and Baby Driver. I think those are two movies most people know him from. I've seen neither Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, M Monstre said: What I said was that a bad first-time sex experience doesnāt result in getting PTSD and going to therapy That's a statement that is made up.Ā There's no factual evidence to support this.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,749 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Maleficent said: So you change your claims half way thru your argument and try to turn in on my reading comprehension. Please.Ā why are you policing mental health and dictating whatās appropriate to seek professional help and whatās not.Ā i really donāt know why youāre ready with pitchforks reared for Ansel when everything we know for fact, points to Ansel having done almost nothing wrong (other than being rude).Ā I didnāt āchange my claimsā you ****ing idiot Donāt blame me for your lack of recognizing context clues and reading comprehension.Ā šš¬š¬š”šš¶š¢, ā'š©š© š°š¢š¢ š¶š¬š² š¦š« šŖš¶ š”šÆš¢ššŖš° Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,749 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Doot said: That's a statement that is made up.Ā There's no factual evidence to support this.Ā Your boyfriend not being able to last for 2 minutes during sex doesnāt directly cause you to getĀ therapy and PTSD. If it does, there are most likely other issues that have compounded that result in you getting PTSD. That ALONE will most likely not result in those two things.Ā šš¬š¬š”šš¶š¢, ā'š©š© š°š¢š¢ š¶š¬š² š¦š« šŖš¶ š”šÆš¢ššŖš° Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, M Monstre said: Your boyfriend not being able to last for 2 minutes during sex doesnāt directly cause you to getĀ therapy and PTSD. If it does, there are most likely other issues that have compounded that result in you getting PTSD. That ALONE will most likely not result in those two things.Ā I know what you're saying. A normal bad experience doesn't result in PTSD. Normal being the stuff you usually hear in people's stories about their first times.Ā Something out of the ordinary mustĀ have happened to her in order to make her require therapy. Which is why we should take her seriously and not discredit her because this wasn't a normal first time.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,749 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Glamourpuss said: I know what you're saying. A normal bad experience doesn't result in PTSD. Normal being the stuff you usually hear in people's stories about their first times.Ā Something out of the ordinary mustĀ have happened to her in order to make her require therapy. Which is why we should take her seriously and not discredit her because this wasn't a normal first time.Ā Thank you for being one of the only people here to understand what the **** I'm saying I swear, I'm arguing with brick walls over here Ā šš¬š¬š”šš¶š¢, ā'š©š© š°š¢š¢ š¶š¬š² š¦š« šŖš¶ š”šÆš¢ššŖš° Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, M Monstre said: Your boyfriend not being able to last for 2 minutes during sex doesnāt directly cause you to getĀ therapy and PTSD. If it does, there are most likely other issues that have compounded that result in you getting PTSD. That ALONE will most likely not result in those two things.Ā Are you a licensed therapist or psychologist though? You have no idea what can trigger PTSD for people. Everyone is different.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,749 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doot said: Are you a licensed therapist or psychologist though? You have no idea what can trigger PTSD for people. Everyone is different.Ā Thatās why I said that if it DOES trigger someone, there are most likely other things too. Iām sorry, but thatās like saying stubbing your toe solely causes PTSD and therapy sessions. If thatās the nail in the coffin, there are probably other things at play too. Read the previous responses to this thread about what I mean by a ābad first-time sex story.ā Iām not talking about rape or sexual assault or anything of that sort at all. šš¬š¬š”šš¶š¢, ā'š©š© š°š¢š¢ š¶š¬š² š¦š« šŖš¶ š”šÆš¢ššŖš° Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Glamourpuss said: A normal bad experience doesn't result in PTSD. Yes it can.Ā PTSD is different for different people. What many say are ridiculous miniscule things, can cause PTSD in people.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Doot said: Yes it can.Ā PTSD is different for different people. What many say are ridiculous miniscule things, can cause PTSD in people.Ā I know that small things can cause PTSD but to assume that what she went through is also a small thing is not the right thing to do to an alleged sexual assault victim and that was the main point. Her ordeal resulted in therapy and that's something that shouldn't be trivialised.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceIsThatBitch 545 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 6/19/2020 at 8:35 AM, FRANZGA said: She was a virgin and Ansel is big.. Are you talking from first hand experience here or what?Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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