Jewels n Drugs 4,629 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 This was an amazing read oh look when you werent looking my motorcycle turned into a piano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTGOD 3,266 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 I think her break up with Taylor also was a huge motivator for her shift in sound. I hate the fact that there are so many monsters that hate this album. Many monsters were so excited with the prospect of getting a dark pop that they didn’t even give Joanne a chance. There are so many fans that resent the era and you constantly see how a lot of them cling hard to Chromatica and use its success to drag Joanne over and over again. Joanne was the album she needed to release at the time, her career reinvention had been building up to it and I can’t possibly see how fans thought we were getting anything else. By 2015 I knew her next album was gonna be something more acoustic and stripped back. I was actually disappointed with PI when it came out but for the opposite reasons as everyone else. I was expecting a hard hitting rock song but I thought the track was too poppy and cleanly produced and it wasn’t a strong enough shift in sound for me. I was thankfully very pleased with the album in the end, the strongest parts of it are where she fully commits to the genres she’s tackling. To this day my biggest gripe with the album is that I wish she had gone all in. She tries too hard to keep some kind of pop sound and production in the album to not completely alienate her fans and I think that negatively impacts some of it. A lot of fans didn’t like it anyway and think it’s a country album just because it has some acoustic guitars. She shouldn’t have worried about them and should have just committed to the sound completely. I still think it’s a great effort and I got the authentic country and rock sound I wanted in ASIB anyway, I just think there is a lot of missed potential in the album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFlop 1,979 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 13 hours ago, ARTGOD said: I hate the fact that there are so many monsters that hate this album. Many monsters were so excited with the prospect of getting a dark pop that they didn’t even give it a chance. To this day my biggest gripe with the album is that I wish she had gone all in. She tries too hard to keep some kind of pop sound and production in the album to not completely alienate her fans and I think that negatively impacts some of it. i think part of the issue is that when you build a devout fandom off of pop music, joanne was never gonna be everyone's cup of tea. i think the "hate" just comes from a disappointment and lack of real interest. cheek to cheek suffers a similar fate. i think she needed to go "all-in" on the concept; i think it should've been presented as the emotional turmoil she was facing, and songs (john wayne, dancin' in circles, a-yo and just another day) been moved to a happier, or at least less deep, record. cohesion has always been her biggest issue in albums; and this one suffers that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiamond 6,286 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I love that you mentioned lyricism change that Gaga did in Joanne Also, am 90% sure that she may have been the riskier move she has ever done, but without it I dont see SP and ASIB Happening Also, I think that she was originally planed to release this concept way later in her career, but pain from ARTPOP era made her need this kind of healing I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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