Why is Chromatica sad?

[Ashley 9,491]

Just now, SHALLOW said:

Yeah but i definitely wanted to believe that she was happy since she said that not that long ago 

I understand, I want her to be happy too. And maybe she was/is but like I said there will be times where she may be depressed and of course she has PTSD and chronic pain to deal with as well. 

[Magui 2,628]

2 minutes ago, SHALLOW said:

Yeah but i definitely wanted to believe that she was happy since she said that not that long ago 

I actually  feel, again it's just what I assume that lately, recent months or so, she seems happy and in a good place.

[SHALLOW 16,409]

4 minutes ago, SMILE2NE1 said:

This except might be interesting for you:

As therapeutic as it was to dance, delivering some of the more emotional lyrics in the studio proved difficult for Gaga. Tucker notes that the song “911,” which features additional production from Madeon, was particularly tough. The song is a powerhouse dance track with deeply affecting lyrics about how she’s her own worst enemy.

“[Gaga] had to relive everything she was talking about in the song with every take,” Tucker explains. “She wore a wig to the studio that day, hoping it would make it a little bit easier to feel like someone else. We had it almost pitch-black in the studio. I wish everyone could see what I saw because she really fought for each and everyone of these songs to put her whole self into it, at any cost.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/lady-gaga-chromatica-making-of-bloodpop-axwell-1007139/

Yeah, ok reliving those emotions... but i'm wondering what's the timeline of this album? She had to write those songs first in order to relive the pain and that makes me think that most songs were written about 2/3 years ago when she probably was in a worse state of mind and then she relived that pain by recording them for the last year(?)

[SMILE2NE1 3,566]

Just now, SHALLOW said:

Yeah, ok reliving those emotions... but i'm wondering what's the timeline of this album? She had to write those songs first in order to relive the pain and that makes me think that most songs were written about 2/3 years ago when she probably was in a worse state of mind and then she relived that pain by recording them for the last year(?)

Timeline is it started in 2016 but only finished in March this year. She said she chain smoked due to her depression until the day she finished the album. Remember, the whole album is about dancing through your pain, rain on me

[SHALLOW 16,409]

5 minutes ago, Magui said:

The other day I was trying  to understand with some people  here how clinical depression works.... it's like a cycle so I think there's  periods where she really goes dark and others she feels more happy.

I get that but it's just strange that these past years she seemed to have some of the best times of her life, she even said that and then she releases a "sad" album. I would've expected something more like ARTPOP where she sings about her struggles here and there but in a lighter way.

[DC 25,164]

Because she listened to After Laughter by Paramore and felt all reductivy and stuff 

[Magui 2,628]

Just now, SHALLOW said:

I get that but it's just strange that these past years she seemed to have some of the best times of her life, she even said that and then she releases a "sad" album. I would've expected something more like ARTPOP where she sings about her struggles here and there but in a lighter way.

Idk ... it's hard to know  where a head was... she had two break ups, her life professionally was great I guess. Idk how her mind works, I'm not her friend (unfortunately lol). I don't know how she feels when she at home living her life and how dark she goes when she is down. 

[March34th 1,973]

23 minutes ago, modern ecstasy said:

No one is 100% happy or sad all of the time. I think anyone else that’s dealt with depression knows it truly never goes away completely.

this.

i find people who struggle with depression experience periods where they feel their life has reached a clearance and they can settle for a few months and feel extremely positive and healed in a lot of ways, but then their life shifts again and it moves around and the depression returns.

[Joanne of Babylon 32]

The first songs were written in November 2017, according to the Rolling Stone interview

[Daylight Jokers 14,958]

She didn't say the album's about dancing through your pain for nothing. I'm a sucker for upbeat tracks with deep/sad lyrics.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

Why not? 

[DiamondAngel 5,044]

PTSD trauma, fibromyalgia pain, and the psychosis she has don’t just go away. She’ll likely battle them forever. I think in this album she’s accepting that reality. 

[OpusDiaboli666 199]

It’s nice that people want her to be happy & I get it. But here‘s the thing as someone who has chronic diseases and trauma as well: this usually runs very deep & some people might not be able to ever be truly happy & even if they are it can’t be all of the time. After everything Gaga said through all of the years „we need fantasy to survive because reality is too difficult“ „as artists we are eternally heartbroken“ & having met her twice I think she is still suffering a lot. Who wouldn’t after everything she’s been through. You don’t take medication for mental illness everyday if you‘re 100% ok. It’s ok not to be ok.

[HorusRa2 5,005]

7 minutes ago, OpusDiaboli666 said:

It’s nice that people want her to be happy & I get it. But here‘s the thing as someone who has chronic diseases and trauma as well: this usually runs very deep & some people might not be able to ever be truly happy & even if they are it can’t be all of the time. After everything Gaga said through all of the years „we need fantasy to survive because reality is too difficult“ „as artists we are eternally heartbroken“ & having met her twice I think she is still suffering a lot. Who wouldn’t after everything she’s been through. You don’t take medication for mental illness everyday if you‘re 100% ok. It’s ok not to be ok.

Best post of the thread. 

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12 minutes ago, SHALLOW said:

I get that but it's just strange that these past years she seemed to have some of the best times of her life, she even said that and then she releases a "sad" album. I would've expected something more like ARTPOP where she sings about her struggles here and there but in a lighter way.

Creating, singing, collaborating with other people is what makes her the happiest. That's the whole point of the album. Most explicitly Sine From Above touches on that. But you canot just erase depression. It's a process, you get better at it but you have to have endurance to develop proper coping mechanisms. And for her that's clearly still an ongoing process. She's never been more honest on a record before, she needed to release that anger and sadness. If she was more concerned about making her audience comfortable that would mean she has to compromise her artistry. Which she probably had to do anyway to certain extent. She is, in fact, a commercial pop artist.