hoeslay 4,174 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, rasclautmangos said: what exactly do you think will come out of it specifically? (serious question, I'm not trying to come for you) I wouldn't expect much but would hope it would bring awareness to members of her fanbase who are maybe not as aware of don't often think critically of these things and who are complacent. I'd like to think Gaga's fanbase is as caring about activism and kindness as she is but that's not always the case. I'm a firm believer in the idea of "educate to activate." Her tweeting or saying something isn't about her or her having a huge role in this, it's about being a responsible activist and doing what you can to make the world a better place. Which we know she believes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangTheGong 310 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I think it's pretty apparent that Gaga is deeply disturbed and saddened by police brutality and violence against black people as she has spoken in the past about Trayvon Martin. I wouldn't be surprised if she does say something about it. The issue is honestly still very new and I only read about it this morning and learned more details this evening. Perhaps she doesn't know much about the situation right now. There's a lot going on in the world right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,098 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hoeanne said: All due respect to Gaga, a wonderful kindhearted person who clearly cares deeply about making the world a better place, but the last thing ~The Discourse~ needs right now is a rich white woman tweeting vague platitudes about kindness. This times a million. Most people don't want to hear from some rich white celeb anyway. I think she learned her lesson from when she tweeted support for BLM back in 2016 with those sort of platitudes, but considering she's still spouting Marianne Williamson style rhetoric (which, to be fair, she may realize isn't applicable to every situation)....makes me believe she could do the same exact thing. For her own sake, I'm hoping she keeps her mouth shut because as a wealthy white woman who can be clueless at times and has skeletons in her past...she does not need to be the focus of people who are justifiably angry and raw and who will turn one potential minor misstep into a firestorm. Amy Schumer has done some problematic things, but clearly means well and is being on Diddy's show right now and is just being roasted and destroyed on twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serial Chiller 8,044 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Franch Toast said: While I would love for her to say something, last time she tried to enter the conversation on the topic of police brutality against African Americans, she made things worse and pissed off people in the black community. That said, stream "Angel Down" y'all. I just listened to it. What did she do that upset them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,098 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, rasclautmangos said: I know this isn't funny, but that still made me laugh. Poor Gaga means well, but she will get freaking DRAGGED if she even kinda sorta implies that this situation could be fixed with kindess. On one hand, after 2016 I think she learned her lesson when people accused her of trying to profit off Trayvon's death. On the other hand, she sounds like a Marianne Williamson clone. God I hope she keeps her mouth shut. I'm half laughing, half feeling sorry for Amy Schumer right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, hoeslay said: I wouldn't expect much but would hope it would bring awareness to members of her fanbase who are maybe not as aware of don't often think critically of these things and who are complacent. I'd like to think Gaga's fanbase is as caring about activism and kindness as she is but that's not always the case. I'm a firm believer in the idea of "educate to activate." Her tweeting or saying something isn't about her or her having a huge role in this, it's about being a responsible activist and doing what you can to make the world a better place. Which we know she believes in. Well maybe she'll do a retweet or something. If Gaga gives one of her kindness speeches right now, people are going to go OFF. I LOVE LOVE Gaga, but baby girl can be a bit tone deaf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice911 536 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Gaga's past actions have shown where she stands on these issues. You cant expect her to speak on it every damn time. Tweets from celebrities dont achieve anything. Call your senators or governors whatever u do in America make them accountable. Enough of forcing celebs at gun point to speak up. She will speak when she wants to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,098 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, hoeslay said: I wouldn't expect much but would hope it would bring awareness to members of her fanbase who are maybe not as aware of don't often think critically of these things and who are complacent. I'd like to think Gaga's fanbase is as caring about activism and kindness as she is but that's not always the case. I'm a firm believer in the idea of "educate to activate." Her tweeting or saying something isn't about her or her having a huge role in this, it's about being a responsible activist and doing what you can to make the world a better place. Which we know she believes in. The thing is she has tweeted in support of BLM before. It's not like that's stopped some people from being racist in the fanbase. She's a wealthy white woman and one tweet from her, when she's not even much of an activist anymore, is going to do nada. People are already aware. I get in an ideal world everyone would speak out. But Gaga literally risking damage to her career is asking a lot when 99.9% of people don't want to hear from rich famous white women. Like Amy Schumer is being destroyed right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutUrPawsUp 200 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 God please NO Gaga is clearly staying away from political issues and devoting herself to charity. As a entertainer she perform to make people feel good and smile in dark times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY 6,270 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Adarsh said: She can be helping and donating behind the scenes. Not everything has to be showed off on social media. This ⬆️ Also, and I know it’s not as important as this mans life, but she has an album due out in less than 24 hours she already delayed once to raise over 100 million for a global pandemic. I think we all know how philanthropic she’s been over the years, way more than when Halsey decided to become the spokeswoman for biracial/bisexual/bipolar people everywhere just in the last three years of her rise to a mainstream artists. I think her statement is ignorant and assumes that everyone not speaking on the matter doesn’t care about it, and that’s just silly. Gaga addressed this issue with her last album and it’s still happening an album cycle later. I don’t mean to be pessimistic but all of the privilege & status in the world won’t change the atrocities that happen to POC and I don’t see it changing even in the age of the social. Change needs to be enacted at a much higher level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,458 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 because this is a very sensitive topic and she in the middle of an era some ppl will probably flit it on her as trying to get "attention" so I want her to talk about it but to be smart. She should simply re tweet a series of tweets from black activists and elevate their voices instead of including hers in the mix. It is respectful of the community, provides a platform to black activists and shows a sense of alliance and support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 26,822 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Serial Chiller said: What did she do that upset them? She Tweeted this: You can check out the comments to see some of the responses, but people also expressed their discontent in their own Tweets/IG posts, such as these: She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,098 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, PutUrPawsUp said: God please NO Gaga is clearly staying away from political issues and devoting herself to charity. As a entertainer she perform to make people feel good and smile in dark times. It's not a political issue—it's a humans rights issue that Black people are being murdered indiscriminately in America because of systematic, severe racism. But I agree that she's clearly transitioned more to just charity instead of activism & charity—and frankly that's fine. She did a lot of activism when she was in her early to mid 20s. Fans need to come to grips with it. And I love her, but as a wealthy white woman who can be slightly tone deaf & has some skeletons in her closet—it's not really her place when people who are educated & know more about the subject are speaking out & people don't want to hear from her. And I'll give her credit—she obviously tried to educate herself post 2016—but I still feel the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Franch Toast said: She Tweeted this: You can check out the comments to see some of the responses, but people also expressed their discontent in their own Tweets/IG posts, such as these: Whew chile! Gaga was so well meaning with that tweet too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,098 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY said: This ⬆️ Also, and I know it’s not as important as this mans life, but she has an album due out in less than 24 hours she already delayed once to raise over 100 million for a global pandemic. I think we all know how philanthropic she’s been over the years, way more than when Halsey decided to become the spokeswoman for biracial/bisexual/bipolar people everywhere just in the last three years of her rise to a mainstream artists. I think her statement is ignorant and assumes that everyone not speaking on the matter doesn’t care about it, and that’s just silly. Gaga addressed this issue with her last album and it’s still happening an album cycle later. I don’t mean to be pessimistic but all of the privilege & status in the world won’t change the atrocities that happen to POC and I don’t see it changing even in the age of the social. Change needs to be enacted at a much higher level. Halsey means well, but she gives way too much importance to celebrities & assumes everyone is as active as she is on social media. It can help to put pressure on a situation where no one has been charged (like Ahmaud's death), but that's about it and 99% of people don't give a flying f*ck what a wealthy, white celeb has to say about a human rights issue that they have little knowledge of beyond watching the news. H*ll, I don't care to hear Gaga's thoughts and I love her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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