Deaths and Covid-19 Cases Rising As Canada Provinces Re-Open Economy Anyway

[Maleficent 6]

70% of cases are in adults 40 and over and ppl still blame millennials/gen-z for being "out and about" and "not wearing masks"

[Economy 52,853]

1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Targeted quarantine and testing is the answer honestly.

Test EVERYONE. Have you tested positive or been exposed to a positive person? Isolate yourself. When you test negative, you're good to go.

The shut downs are only because our leaders failed to do that  especially ours. Trump said something like "one of our staffers tested so well for so long then boom, she's positive out of no where, and that's why testing is bad". That guy is in charge

Well here in Canada our testing capacity still isn't high enough to fully rely on that method. It's mostly symptomatic people or their direct contacts that get tested

 

In some Countries their testing is more advanced and can target quarantine better

 

But i agree it's a very big part of the solution cuz lockdowns alone are not sustainable for very long

 

Some estimates already say 40% of restaurants will go bankrupt in Canada. I hope that estimate is wrong

[SCHEISSEMONTRE 2,783]

20 minutes ago, Economy said:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/6980031/ontario-coronavirus-cases-may-24-covid19/amp/ https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/montreal/2020/5/23/1_4951702.html

 

After some stabalization in Ontario the daily new cases have been steadily climbing over the last 2 weeks with new cases rising to 460 in the last 24hours bringing total confirmed to 25,500 in the Province 

 

Quebec is even worse as still the epicentre in Canada getting nearly 700 cases every day and total 47,000 confirmed cases and they too are re-opening

 

Justin Trudeau and the Federal Government has imposed some basic standards for re-opening but it is still up to each Province to decide when and if to implement them or remain in lockdown

 

Most other Provinces are also in the midst of re-opening with British Columbia's re-opening stage among the most advanced

I'm in BC (Victoria) and Schools are beginning to open tomorrow (only if you need help) 

 

[Maleficent 6]

1 minute ago, SCHEISSEMONTRE said:

I'm in BC (Victoria) and Schools are beginning to open tomorrow (only if you need help) 

 

bc's curve is pretty much crushed. only 500 active cases in the entire province, and 80% of them linked to nursing home unfortunately. our govt and Bonnie Tyler did good

[Adakam 2]

1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Targeted quarantine and testing is the answer honestly.

Test EVERYONE. Have you tested positive or been exposed to a positive person? Isolate yourself. When you test negative, you're good to go.

The shut downs are only because our leaders failed to do that  especially ours. Trump said something like "one of our staffers tested so well for so long then boom, she's positive out of no where, and that's why testing is bad". That guy is in charge

Well, hes not 100% wrong, you can test negative today and get infected tomorrow. Testing negative = youre good to go, only works if you get tested like every few days. 

Testing is more to track the areas in which the virus is spreading than it is about telling individuals to isolate themselves or that theyre "good to go" 

[Economy 52,853]

Just now, Maleficent said:

70% of cases are in adults 40 and over and ppl still blame millennials/gen-z for being "out and about" and "not wearing masks"

I'm not surprised confirmed cases would be like that tho

 

Young ppl are disproportionately much more likely to get it very mildly or no symptoms at all and less likely therefore to get tested and confirmed

 

It doesn't mean the real number is that under 40 people are only 30% of cases

 

Besides under 40 also includes kids and young teenagers not going to school or too young to hangout with friends. They will bring down the average for under 40 as well doesn't mean millenials aren't guilty of not being careful enough

 

We need to be careful when we interpret numbers. It's like when Viagra uses numbers like 40% of men over 40 experience ED to normalize it and sell their product...

 

At 40 the percentage will not be 40% of men with ED it will be lower, but men aged 80 will be much higher than 40% will be lumped in the same age group the way they are presenting the numbers

 

I'm always wary of how statistics are presented cuz details matter in the messaging

 

[Maleficent 6]

9 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Trump said something like "one of our staffers tested so well for so long then boom, she's positive out of no where, and that's why testing is bad". That guy is in charge

i think/hope Trump meant to say "testing negative once shouldn't give anyone the green light to go out and around as if everything is normal. you can test negative, but still get infected shortly after and infect dozens of people" 

he's just not intelligent enough to word it correctly (i hope). 

[Economy 52,853]

3 minutes ago, Maleficent said:

i think/hope Trump meant to say "testing negative once shouldn't give anyone the green light to go out and around as if everything is normal. you can test negative, but still get infected shortly after and infect dozens of people" 

he's just not intelligent enough to word it correctly (i hope). 

Who knows with him tbh

 

I think he words things badly a lot and sometimes what he means is not how he came across but then he's also dumb enough to mean stupid things

 

If your dumb in ideas and wording, it could be either... Or both

 

[HausofGabo 1,289]

Everything's a mess here in Chile. The government is lying about the numbers and we entered a full quarantine just two weeks ago, when it was too late. 

85% of the beds are occupied (according to the press) and the results are taking way too long (10+ days).

[PartySick 172,539]

13 minutes ago, Adakam said:

Well, hes not 100% wrong, you can test negative today and get infected tomorrow. Testing negative = youre good to go, only works if you get tested like every few days. 

Nah, it seemed like he was saying "less tests = less confirmed cases". Which is why he pushed so hard against testing in the first place.

@Maleficent ^

The proposal I saw was testing every two weeks and tracing from there but obviously this "I'm free! #NoMask #NoSocialDistancing" people wouldn't consent to that.

I guess our only hope is a vaccine. That doesn't save compromised and at risk people from stupid jerks who refuse it but it's something.

[PartySick 172,539]

Btw, for anyone who hasn't gotten it, the test sucks ass. Gaga could have used me for a Monster Ball styled Alejandro video 

[Obobo 3,984]

The damn video of how crowded Trinity Bellwoods park in Toronto is took the #1 trending spot on YouTube. Miss Corona is really ruining everything. 

[Fish 6,259]

32 minutes ago, Economy said:

Fair. But it's just when they talk about Provinces they aren't breaking it down by city... Cuz it also varies a lot in other Provinces too

 

It would be more accurate to break it down by major cities and metros but I guess because Provinces have the most authority in dealing with this, they report the situation based on Provinces without usually specifying which areas are actually the specific hot spots

girl mtl has re opened more slowly than elsewhere

[Thomas P 18,479]

I have no idea how bad Ottawa is being hit. The numbers coming out of Toronto make me happy school went online so I could get out of there quicker. 

[Franch Toast 27,737]

1 hour ago, PartySick said:

Targeted quarantine and testing is the answer honestly.

Test EVERYONE. Have you tested positive or been exposed to a positive person? Isolate yourself. When you test negative, you're good to go.

The shut downs are only because our leaders failed to do that  especially ours. Trump said something like "one of our staffers tested so well for so long then boom, she's positive out of no where, and that's why testing is bad". That guy is in charge

This, but people have to truly isolate themselves if they’ve been exposed. And for this to work, we’d need better contract tracing, which many westerners are against. 
 

Also, people need to wear masks when they’re around people outside of their household, and too many people are refusing to do so, at least in the US.