Robert Pattinson refuses to work out for 'The Batman'

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

1 hour ago, weed said:

superheros back then:

now:

That's like comparing Barney and Friends to Jurassic Park or Teletubbies to the Aliens franchise.

Adam West's Batman was a children's TV show that actually showed the words (POW!) When a punch was thrown so cover up the violence. And this is coming from a fan of the show. I loved Eartha Kitt's Catwoman.

I mean Adam West's Batman can't even get to an elevator fast enough to stop cat woman from "escaping."

 

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16 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

You james bond argument isnt the same thing cuz every james bond is different .

Excuse me? every James Bond is different?

White, male, Brown/Dark Hair and English. If this 6 people represent difference for you then I don’t know what to say. And James Bond is also based on a writen Story, pictured like they are above. So no my argument is the same.

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1 minute ago, DiskoBaby said:

Because honestly, comic book nerds live vicariously through their comic book fantasies. They don't want to look at Superheros that remind them of themselves. They don't want them to be relatable. They want them to be unrealistic but match the fantasy of how they want to be. They want Batman to be buff, and rich, and a playboy, and a good fighter. 

They want to see that fantasy on the big screen because they want to reimagine themselves as Batman. They don't want Everyman. 

But then the problem already is laying beneath the OG comics. It was created by people during times when the term toxic masculinity wasn't even around. I get it it's a fantasy that lives through the imagination of the audience and by people who read comics and then go see the movie but especially in comic culture and pop culture these are all patterns that create stereotypes that all are in our bones and if we really want to change these patterns we have to start a conversation about what the society accepts as their superheroes because these characters are just a reflection of society after all. 

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2 minutes ago, venusinmyhead said:

But then the problem already is laying beneath the OG comics. It was created by people during times when the term toxic masculinity wasn't even around. I get it it's a fantasy that lives through the imagination of the audience and by people who read comics and then go see the movie but especially in comic culture and pop culture these are all patterns that create stereotypes that all are in our bones and if we really want to change these patterns we have to start a conversation about what the society accepts as their superheroes because these characters are just a reflection of society after all. 

That’s what I’m trying to say. My English is just not good enough to say it like that skjsks

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I low key kinda agree. Like, exercise is important, but taking it to an extreme can become an issue. Guess it depends what you’re doing it for.

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2 minutes ago, venusinmyhead said:

But then the problem already is laying beneath the OG comics. It was created by people during times when the term toxic masculinity wasn't even around. I get it it's a fantasy that lives through the imagination of the audience and by people who read comics and then go see the movie but especially in comic culture and pop culture these are all patterns that create stereotypes that all are in our bones and if we really want to change these patterns we have to start a conversation about what the society accepts as their superheroes because these characters are just a reflection of society after all. 

Execs have tried including more PC heros in the comics but they flop. Turns out fans don't like it when the heros they grew up all their lives suddenly turn into women or are a different race or make a big deal on their identity. Remember the TV series Batwoman last year? The trailer made a big deal deal of her being a woman rather just being a superhero. No one was here for that. Marvel does plan on including more female heroes in their movies but feels like it's happening organically rather than forced. But they did have Carol Danvers make a bunch of politically correct statements on white men and now she's the most hated actor. So it's a slippery slope.

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16 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

Excuse me? every James Bond is different?

White, male, Brown/Dark Hair and English. If this 6 people represent difference for you then I don’t know what to say. And James Bond is also based on a writen Story, pictured like they are above. So no my argument is the same.

Please Can you calm down listen before  responding. This makes me feel  like you didnt even read my post and all you cared about was disagreeing

I said all james bonds are different  because they are portrayed differently by each actor and  the writers take on a  different take on the story.  All james bond movies are different  stories. So any writer can take up the story and cast a female or black man and it would not be a problem to me

But batman has his history traced to hundreds of comics books. people cant just pick up the character and take what they want from it .

Point is you cant compare  james bond and batman characters. And btw if they want to reinvent batman fine, but that should be the producers choice at the approval of fans and not just the actors solo decision to do  whatever he likes after getting paid millions

 

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1 minute ago, RenegAde said:

Please Can you calm down listen before  responding. This makes me feel  like you didnt even read my post and all youbcared baout was disagreeing

I said all james bonds are different  because they are portrayed differently by each actor and  the writers take on a  different take on the story.  All james bond movies are different  stories. So any writer can take up the story and cast a female or black man and it would not be a problem to me

But batman has his history traced to hundreds of comics books. people cant just pick up the character and take what they want from it .

Point is you cant compare  james bond and batman characters. And btw if they want to reinvent batman fine, but that should be the producers choice at the approval of fans and not just the actors solo decision to do  whatever he likes after getting paid millions

 

I'm calmed down. I state my opinion in a normal way. Don't see the problem here.

All I can do for the second part is quote this:

10 minutes ago, venusinmyhead said:

But then the problem already is laying beneath the OG comics. It was created by people during times when the term toxic masculinity wasn't even around. I get it it's a fantasy that lives through the imagination of the audience and by people who read comics and then go see the movie but especially in comic culture and pop culture these are all patterns that create stereotypes that all are in our bones and if we really want to change these patterns we have to start a conversation about what the society accepts as their superheroes because these characters are just a reflection of society after all. 

That is what I really wanna say...

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8 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

I'm calmed down. I state my opinion in a normal way. Don't see the problem here.

All I can do for the second part is quote this:

That is what I really wanna say...

So why  cant they make new stories about body positive  characters instead of messing with the ones we already have .ill be all for it if they was a new pluz size super hero . But dont  mess with a character  like batman who fans already love for what he is.  

The funny thing is id have been  alright if this was the idea the producers had originally  in mind for this film .like if the writers decided that they wanted to take a different  direction  with this particular  film . But the idea that this actor is acting solo just because he doesnt want to work out ??? Then what exactly are they paying him all those millions for ?when there's going to be CGI and stunt doubles for him.all he has to do basically is read lines and  look the part  while doing it and thats also a problem for him .

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2 minutes ago, DiskoBaby said:

Execs have tried including more PC heros in the comics but they flop. Turns out fans don't like it when the heros they grew up all their lives suddenly turn into women or are a different race or make a big deal on their identity. Remember the TV series Batwoman last year? The trailer made a big deal deal of her being a woman rather just being a superhero. No one was here for that. Marvel does plan on including more female heroes in their movies but feels like it's happening organically rather than forced. But they did have Carol Danvers make a bunch of politically correct statements on white men and now she's the most hated actor. So it's a slippery slope.

It definitely is but people are so used to the cis-white male standards in hollywood blockbusters and comic revivals (and pretty much everything) that it's completely understandable that they suddenly feel forced to accept a woman playing a role that was solely played by men before. I don't judge them it's a discussion which has arisen a few years ago and slowly we are seeing change to a more diverse representation. But we should not hate people or force companies to backtrack their descisions for actively trying to make an effort to break down those structures. It may feel discomforting or not authentic at first but we'll get used to it and on the longrun it is offering so much more freedom to people and society in terms of how we can express ourselves. 

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christian bale will always be #1

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3 hours ago, RAMROD said:

Actually no, that is perfectly twink torso

 

Also, some of those more toned Batman are perfectly OK to be compared to Pattinson's body. 

For example, the Year One Batman.

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This just make realize how toxic the comic book community is jfc 

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GrindrDaily judging and shaming bodies. What’s new. 

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He prances around in tights, how serious ya'll gonna take this. Oh and they always white so...