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joannesrats

Idc about length. Johns Wayne is a short song and it’s regarded as a fan favorite. 

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Gracious Gaga
6 minutes ago, JRCF29 said:

Inb4 each is just an instrumental ft. Brian Newman, Colby O'Donnis, and a guest verse by Twista

and when you look at the writing credits they were composed by Florence welches grape juice.

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gagafanobvi

so the songs are basically all sampled and short and there is three interludes? 

this makes the album already worse than TF, TFM, BTW and ARTPOP.

awesome...

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petty
21 minutes ago, gumzy3000 said:

Does anyone else feel like Gaga will sample this song in ALICE? I mean, its too perfect. Alice is about Gaga's dog passing away and this is a 90s classic trance song. Rumor has it Gaga will be sampling a lot of 90s music in this album. And this song is almost 3 minutes long :stalkga:

 

I will CRYYYYYYYYYYY

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Britney Jean1

Am I the only who thinks song lengths are not important. I'll take a 2:01 good song instead of 6:20 bad song. 

 

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MaryJaneHolland

Kinda mad at how Gaga also jumped on the short songs trend

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holy scheisse

Maybe the chromatica tracks will be more instrumental interlude types of tracks

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jorja
11 minutes ago, gagafanobvi said:

so the songs are basically all sampled and short

how could you know that? :billie:

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Cerny
1 hour ago, Dayman said:

Sometimes it's just because they don't bloat the song with too long of a chorus or intros and outros. Things that just make it longer for the sake of being long - a lot of songs on BTW are guilty of that. It works better live than having it on EVERY song on an album. Good example is Poker Face, it's only 3:57 but the final chorus seems to go on forever, the radio edit is shorter but suits the song much better.

In this case the tracks on Chromatica range from short to pop standard length, even the features, two of them being shorter than the Elton John one, which is the longest track, and not even long to begging with. I just prefer when artists showcase their musicality with no restrictions.

That’s because she’s repeating the same words over and over, just monotonous repetition with no variations whatsoever. She could have done something more dynamic with the last chorus.

No track on BTW is longer just because, imo. The longest tracks (The Queen, TEOG, Hair, and You and I) are some of her best compositions, musically speaking, Gaga allowed the instrumentation and vocal improvisation to truly shine in those, but those moments are rare in her music. One of her shortest tracks, Perfect Illusion, could have benefited from that.

Mary Jane Holland is even more of a stand-out track with the commentary on ****ography as an intro.

I prefer this over the album version too:

It’s just a few seconds more, but they add to it.

It all comes down to preference, but there’s an incentive to create shorter songs to garner as many streams as possible and maximize airplay on the radio. And just like many other pop stars, I think Gaga likes to take part in that.

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Just now, Cerny said:

In these case the tracks on Chromatica range from short to pop standard length, even the features, two of them being shorter than the Elton John one, which is the longest track, and not even long to begging with. I just prefer when artists showcase their musicality with no restrictions.

That’s because she’s repeating the same words over and over, just monotonous repetition with no variations whatsoever. She could have done something more dynamic with the last chorus.

No track on BTW is longer just because, imo. The longest tracks (The Queen, TEOG, Hair, and You and I) are some of her best compositions, musically speaking, Gaga allowed the instrumentation and vocal improvisation to truly shine in those, but those moments are rare in her music. One of her shortest track, Perfect Illusion, could have benefited from that.

Mary Jane Holland is even more of a stand-out track with the commentary on ****ography as an intro.

I prefer this over the album version too:

It’s just a few seconds more, but they add to it.

It all comes down to preference, but there’s an incentive to create shorter songs to garner as many streams as possible and maximize airplay on the radio. And just like many other pop stars, I think Gaga likes to take part in that.

   I don't disagree entirely. But a lot of of songs on Born This Way have roughly 30 second intros and then 30 second outros - some much longer. Ones that could be cut and you wouldn't lose much of the song. I personally LOVE extended songs - that being said an extended version can always be made by fans from stems or instrumentals that leak - or they can come officially in music videos and tour versions. Every song doesn't need to have an extended final chorus, or a lengthy intro/outro to be a good song. A lot of people seem to be equating that having a song be longer somehow makes it better, when actually sometimes it may just make it longer - not better, not worse - just longer.

   A 3:00 song isn't inherently bad after all. The thing is most albums had songs around 3 minutes for decades for vinyl and cassette formats - then CDs and digital releases came and that caused a lot of artists to make songs that were 4-6 minutes long because the space was no longer a limitation. With streaming now it has gone to show that 3 minute songs tend to do better - plus there has been a sort of resurgence of analog formats that favor shorter song length. So seeing short songs on the album isn't bad at all in terms of indication of quality.

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Cerny
1 hour ago, Dayman said:

   I don't disagree entirely. But a lot of of songs on Born This Way have roughly 30 second intros and then 30 second outros - some much longer. Ones that could be cut and you wouldn't lose much of the song. I personally LOVE extended songs - that being said an extended version can always be made by fans from stems or instrumentals that leak - or they can come officially in music videos and tour versions. Every song doesn't need to have an extended final chorus, or a lengthy intro/outro to be a good song. A lot of people seem to be equating that having a song be longer somehow makes it better, when actually sometimes it may just make it longer - not better, not worse - just longer.

   A 3:00 song isn't inherently bad after all. The thing is most albums had songs around 3 minutes for decades for vinyl and cassette formats - then CDs and digital releases came and that caused a lot of artists to make songs that were 4-6 minutes long because the space was no longer a limitation. With streaming now it has gone to show that 3 minute songs tend to do better - plus there has been a sort of resurgence of analog formats that favor shorter song length. So seeing short songs on the album isn't bad at all in terms of indication of quality.

Those were just examples, I really don’t want every song to have an extended intro, chorus, or outro. I'd just love for Gaga to make at least one no f*cks 8 minutes+ piece, no trimming down involved, bold and compulsive, but still coherent, deeply compelling, with weight. Not just a super glossy, catchy track, or a ballad with yet another simple structure. They’re not bad, I agree, I’d just love something more.

Gaga is a classically trained pianist, I would like to listen to some of her music, and hear that. I find it a bit disappointing that she hasn’t composed anything like that, yet, that’s all. 

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bees and honeyy
3 minutes ago, Cerny said:

Those were just examples, I really don’t want every song to have an extended intro, chorus, or outro. I'd just love for Gaga to make at least one no f*cks 8 minutes+ piece, no trimming down involved, bold and compulsive, but still coherent, deeply compelling, with weight. Not just a super glossy, catchy track, or a ballad with yet another simple structure. They’re not bad, I agree, I’d just love something more.

Gaga is a classically trained pianist, I would like to listen to some of her music, and hear that. I find it a bit disappointing that she hasn’t composed anything like that, yet, that’s all. 

maybe we will see some of that in chromatica I-III?

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