Justice for "Mommy" Girl

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Lol that reach: whether it's mami or mommy, it's weird. Idk I personally wouldn't stalk my fave artist and call out to them like that 

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9 hours ago, ShesAMess said:

i mean the mommy girl was defended by mother monster so I think she’s all good  

Oh wow! That's so sweet  I never knew she tweeted that. She's like always singled out as the most disturbing part of 5F2. I hope the girl saw this and doesn't feel bad over people misunderstanding her. If you're actually around Latino people you'd immediately clock that it's just a term of affection. She basically said "A-yo ma, lemme get an autograph!" I hear it all the time:

At the cafe: Mami, whatchu need?

Running for the bus: Mami mami, you dropped something!

After a conversation: You have a good one mami.

You never heard someone being called papi? It's the same. Even Anthony Ramos' character in ASIB calls Jackson Maine papo !

I just feel bad that she's misunderstood to be a creep on an international scale for saying a very common, very NY thing.

1 hour ago, platinumpixels said:

Lol that reach: whether it's mami or mommy, it's weird. Idk I personally wouldn't stalk my fave artist and call out to them like that 

As far as stalking her, she prob just did the slick move of just eavesdropping on the paps and following them. That might have even been the back door of that same building ( a fake-out move that would 've  cleared all those ppl from the street who would think she left left). LMs have done more just to get a glimpse of Gaga, let alone right next to her for an autograph, so.

 

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10 hours ago, VOLANTIS said:

The fact that Gaga let that footage sequence make the final cut knowing very well that girl would get dragged wasn't very Kindness Punk of her. 

 

9 hours ago, VOLANTIS said:

A kindness punk would have pulled the plug on sight though. 

She kept herself out of the editing process and it's a very common thing to say/hear in the NYC area. I didnt even clock how off people took it til they kept bringing it up. 

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12 minutes ago, KNJ said:

Oh wow! That's so sweet  I never knew she tweeted that. She's like always singled out as the most disturbing part of 5F2. I hope the girl saw and doesn't feel bad over people misunderstanding her. If you're actually around Latino people you'd immediately clock that it's just a term of affection. I hear it all the time:

At the cafe: Mami, whatchu need?

Running for the bus: Mami mami, you dropped something!

After a conversation: You have a good one mami.

You never heard someone being called papi? It's the same. Even Anthony Ramos' character in ASIB calls Jackson Maine papo !

She basically said "A-yo ma, lemme get an autograph!" and I just feel bad that she's misunderstood to be a creep in an international scale.

 

As far as stalking her, she prob just did the slick move of just eavesdropping on the papa and following them. That may've been the back door of that same building ( a fake-out move that would 've  cleared all those ppl from the street who would think she left left). LMs have done more just to get a glimpse of Gaga, so.

 

 

I agree with you 100% and I hope too that she saw that tweet and doesn’t feel bad just because stan twitter took that misunderstood phrase and ran with it to the deep end 

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9 hours ago, Santa Stefani said:

Imagine wasting your time in a crazy CoroQuarantined weekend to make sure if some girl is calling Gaga mommy or mami 

Lol why not? This is a Netflix doc which means it will never be pulled from the site and is seen by an international audience daily. It's a simple subtitle edit. If enough of us mention it, they may move on it. Especially if it gives them the opportunity to do some cheeky joke about it on Most for Mothers Day.

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The edit was pretty intense but I didn't find it weird she would call her mommy or mami.

What I cant really get past is people like her always waiting for Gaga outside her home. Not just an event venue or a recording studio but her actual home! Its tempting if you live in NYC when she did and because she stops quite often, but I still feel it's too invasive to wait outside her home and yell for her attention when she steps out the door. 

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21 minutes ago, Marjol said:

The edit was pretty intense but I didn't find it weird she would call her mommy or mami.

What I cant really get past is people like her always waiting for Gaga outside her home. Not just an event venue or a recording studio but her actual home! Its tempting if you live in NYC when she did and because she stops quite often, but I still feel it's too invasive to wait outside her home and yell for her attention when she steps out the door. 

I get what your saying but that was Electric Lady studios. And even if it was her apt (like in other scenes) that's just what happens cuz the sidewalk isnt private property. Then everyone knows your address and then the lookey-loos start to gather with the fans and with no back exit or underground garage (the one amenity she says she needs to buy another NYC apt) you gotta show your face to clear it.  Police and security cant really do much about you being there, other than crowd control and putting up barricades. 

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11 hours ago, Funkymonkey said:

Also: if that girl was following Gaga everywhere, she shouldnt feel bad about the backlash? I mean... she chooses to do that. Nobodt forces her. So if anything I guess it was a wake up call for her

I mean I get that but nobody chooses to be bullied and she was BULLIED. And Gaga and the director both should have picked up on how something like that could literally destroy her life. Nobody forces people to be overweight but you wouldn’t tell them that getting bullied is a “wake up call” right? 

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Mommy is not common everywhere. Around here kids stop saying mommy around age 5. Mom is much more common and only for actual birth mothers. The mamacita variant is never heard or used.

 

Why even bring this up? Five foot 2 was a documentary. It was an accurate documentation of actual events. She called LG mommy in a strident voice intending to be heard. She was heard.  It's what she wanted. It is what it is.

 

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49 minutes ago, Fresco said:

Mommy is not common everywhere. Around here kids stop saying mommy around age 5. Mom is much more common and only for actual birth mothers. The mamacita variant is never heard or used.

 

Why even bring this up? Five foot 2 was a documentary. It was an accurate documentation of actual events. She called LG mommy in a strident voice intending to be heard. She was heard.  It's what she wanted. It is what it is.

 

Not mommy, mami. I don't know where you live in the US but, like I said, it's super common to hear this in the NYC area or, I suppose, wherever Latino culture/language is very prevalent.

I bring it up because I believe she was misunderstood and people have, are or will continue to judge her harshly and unfairly (read dragged and bullied) over what's highly likely just a cultural misunderstanding. 

Like I said, as long as Netflix exists, this doc and her face, will continue to be seen by an international audience of millions. She didn't ask for these few moments  in her life to be filmed and dispersed to millions of people until the end of time, but it has. The least that can be done is to try to ask Netflix to exercise some geocultural insight, have a little mercy and give her the benefit of the doubt that it is as plausible that she was saying "mami", as it is she was saying "mommy", and change the subtitles. 

The film is an accurate documentation of events but a transcribers understanding of the local slang within it may not be.

Its literally changing three letters in a subtitle editor. 

That's all I'm saying. 

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12 hours ago, VOLANTIS said:

The fact that Gaga let that footage sequence make the final cut knowing very well that girl would get dragged wasn't very Kindness Punk of her. 

Gaga actually didn’t view the documentary until after the final cut was finished. She wanted this to come from the people around her so we can see her the way they do and not what she wants us to see

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6 hours ago, KNJ said:

Not mommy, mami. I don't know where you live in the US but, like I said, it's super common to hear this in the NYC area or, I suppose, wherever Latino culture/language is very prevalent.

I bring it up because I believe she was misunderstood and people have, are or will continue to judge her harshly and unfairly (read dragged and bullied) over what's highly likely just a cultural misunderstanding. 

Like I said, as long as Netflix exists, this doc and her face, will continue to be seen by an international audience of millions. She didn't ask for these few moments  in her life to be filmed and dispersed to millions of people until the end of time, but it has. The least that can be done is to try to ask Netflix to exercise some geocultural insight, have a little mercy and give her the benefit of the doubt that it is as plausible that she was saying "mami", as it is she was saying "mommy", and change the subtitles. 

The film is an accurate documentation of events but a transcribers understanding of the local slang within it may not be.

Its literally changing three letters in a subtitle editor. 

That's all I'm saying. 

Bringing it up on this site and reddit just draws attention to it. This seems counterproductive to what you say you want. I haven't watched it in a while, but I understood it as mommy when I first watched it. 

 

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I remember it was all over online that someone threw that girl in a fountain. 

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Lmao don't even try reddit. Someone on the Gaga subreddit got their panties in a knot when I posted about December 31st being the place holder for the release date.

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On 5/6/2020 at 11:43 PM, Fresco said:

Bringing it up on this site and reddit just draws attention to it. This seems counterproductive to what you say you want. I haven't watched it in a while, but I understood it as mommy when I first watched it. 

 

I've seen people talk about whether saying mommy was weird. I don't believe I've ever seen anyone defend her with the insight that it may be mami tho.