Adakam 2 Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Azor Ahai said: Hide contents Apparently for half the game you play as the villain trying to kill the main heroes Yah already told him lol. And yeah your spoiler is correct, just remove the word "trying". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, Adakam said: Yah already told him lol. And yeah your spoiler is correct, just remove the word "trying". Spoiler The newest spoiler says Ellie survives in the end. She surely doesn't die in the leaked 2 hour gameplay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 41,585 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I'm so confused reading all of this. At first I thought the main character was gay/bi and the fans were mad and homophobic, but why is everyone mad at the developers/script? Can someone quote me with a spoiler tag and let me know please? I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, catsandlabneh said: Also, I'm not sure if true but I read somewhere that the leak happened because the company refused to give employees part of their post-release bonus (which is in itself a very shitty system because it depends on how much the game sells) and so one employee leaked it as revenge. I genuinely don't know how accurate it is, but if it is real they deserve the leaks. Edit: i just saw that Sony said that the leaker is not from within the company with headlines saying its not an "angry employee" which makes me think it actually is an employee 16 minutes ago, AdmistTheLight said: It's not really the homophobia that makes this a scandal, we already know the main protagonist is LGBTQ+ since forever. The story is that Naughty Dog fell behind schedule and start rushing employees in very bad working hours and conditions, so one of them decided to leak the whole thing in protest. That was just cleared up: The tweet above is a thread, so click to read the whole thing. Also: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Helxig said: I'm so confused reading all of this. At first I thought the main character was gay/bi and the fans were mad and homophobic, but why is everyone mad at the developers/script? Can someone quote me with a spoiler tag and let me know please? Sent you the whole rundown of the leaked plot, read it if you want to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahrahWitch 6,948 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 The whole situation just highlights exactly why Big games like this need Gay characters. There's still so much homophobia in the gaming community, All it takes is a scroll trough Twitch to see that. Personally I think the outrage is a small vocal minority and most support the idea which is great. If a gay character ruins a game for them then good riddance, Times are changing and that ideology is going to leave them in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 17,344 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 There's so much hearsay going on when it comes to this story, that at this point I'm just gonna wait till the game comes out and see for myself - if the story sucks, oh well, but something tells me it will be fine, people are just freaking out about nothing and letting bigots drive the narrative I will mention this - a lot of the time execution is more important than the story itself Men are naturally more dominating, aggressive, and logical thinking because we have balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 As a STAUNCH progressive and SJWs and all that. I think this new story is terrible Spoiler Making the villain of a story LGBT+ then also making the player control the villain who then goes on to KILL the protagonists? Like why couldnt the trans woman be the good person in all this? Would that be that hard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Adakam said: Sent you the whole rundown of the leaked plot, read it if you want to Going by your opening post, you’re not buying the game because people are being homophobic and transphobic (confused about the latter also, Ellie is gay and it’s been known for years, that one other character in the game is not trans) now that they know the game’s plot, is that correct? Or you just lost interest in the game after reading about what goes down in it and you’re in disagreement about the handling of some established characters in the sequel? If it’s the former what do the developers have to do with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 18,934 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 58 minutes ago, AdmistTheLight said: It's not really the homophobia that makes this a scandal, we already know the main protagonist is LGBTQ+ since forever. The story is that Naughty Dog fell behind schedule and start rushing employees in very bad working hours and conditions, so one of them decided to leak the whole thing in protest. And the gag is that they weren’t even associated with ND or Sony lmaoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janosch 125 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I don't understand why everyone is saying they're not buying the game anymore? I've not read the plot or whatever is causing these opinions. I'd be happy if someone what share that with me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: As a STAUNCH progressive and SJWs and all that. I think this new story is terrible Reveal hidden contents Making the villain of a story LGBT+ then also making the player control the villain who then goes on to KILL the protagonists? Like why couldnt the trans woman be the good person in all this? Would that be that hard? Spoiler She’s not trans, that narrative was created by some angry dimwits who think Naughty Dog are promoting violence against straight white man , and since Abby is a physically strong and brutal woman, their racist and transphobic selves decided to believe she’s trans and hate on her. They are labeling the game “woke propaganda”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eido 3,633 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cerny said: Reveal hidden contents She’s not trans, that narrative was created by some angry dimwits who think Naughty Dog are promoting violence against straight white man , and since Abby is a physically strong and brutal woman, their racist and transphobic selves decided to believe she’s trans and hate on her. They are labeling the game “woke propaganda”. Spoiler There is a reason why she kills we know who Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Eido said: Hide contents There is a reason why she kills we know who Spoiler Yes, but she’s not trans and she’s not killing that character because he’s a straight white man. She’s seeking revenge. Some are also saying she is an angry feminist simply because she tortured an killed him, but that makes no sense. He killed her dad, so she’s killing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, Cerny said: Hide contents She’s not trans, that narrative was created by some angry dimwits who think Naughty Dog are promoting violence against straight white man , and since Abby is a physically strong and brutal woman, their racist and transphobic selves decided to believe she’s trans and hate on her. They are labeling the game “woke propaganda”. Spoiler She looks she has a male physique espesially in the leaked video. She looks like a pre-op trans-woman which makes sense because in the apocalypse you can't do hormones or surgeries etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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