crybrowz 3,313 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I think her label was trying to create her "Like a Prayer" moment by using religious controversy combined with a catchy song . And she and Redone deliberately tried to recreate the BR formula sound wise hoping that it would replicate its success. It didn't work obviously which is unfortunate bc it is one of her best songs and videos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAYHEMikey 8,043 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, Trixie Mattel said: Those “fans” are always disappointed when it comes to lead singles + a lead single should not be the best song of an album... NO DUCT TAPE - NO MISSON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 A calculated move that backfired I think more from the label. BTW even with six weeks at number 1 still didn’t perform as well as a lead single for one of the most hyped albums EVER. You can check the billboard year-ends for that and its chart performance in other countries. I think the label was aware of that even before the song’s release. It was a “statement single” something that Gaga could afford to do at that point, and it was naturally the right choice. It was a legacy solidifying song. It’s somehow similar to how Reputation got LWYMMD as the lead. With BTW as the lead, the second single should be something more formulaic, to make sure it will carry the album hype as it is nearer to the street date. So they decided with Judas. I think they miscalculated the whole controversy aspect of it. They thought they would benefit from it like Madonna with LAP. The problem was that less than a year before that Gaga had the backlash with Alejandro. It was still fresh from the mind of the gp and at that point Judas seemed like a contrived attempt to recreate the buzz that Alejandro had but instead of helping with the sales it nailed the end of her imperial phase. Funny enough that the cracks started to appear during Alejandro. I would’ve went with Scheisse, but at that point in time radio was a big factor. As much as we the fans love it the label wasn’t probably sure that it’ll be radio-friendly. They might’ve thought that it was too convoluted and that you have to be into Gaga to get it. Weirdly enough, my gp friends liked it from the get go so it was a missed opportunity. It was really fun to be a fan that time, but I guess with what Gaga was at that time and the hype, there’s no other way but down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 It was her attempt at creating Bad Romance on steroids, and they did just that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isidro Guevara 821 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Kimihiro said: A calculated move that backfired I think more from the label. BTW even with six weeks at number 1 still didn’t perform as well as a lead single for one of the most hyped albums EVER. You can check the billboard year-ends for that and its chart performance in other countries. I think the label was aware of that even before the song’s release. It was a “statement single” something that Gaga could afford to do at that point, and it was naturally the right choice. It was a legacy solidifying song. It’s somehow similar to how Reputation got LWYMMD as the lead. With BTW as the lead, the second single should be something more formulaic, to make sure it will carry the album hype as it is nearer to the street date. So they decided with Judas. I think they miscalculated the whole controversy aspect of it. They thought they would benefit from it like Madonna with LAP. The problem was that less than a year before that Gaga had the backlash with Alejandro. It was still fresh from the mind of the gp and at that point Judas seemed like a contrived attempt to recreate the buzz that Alejandro had but instead of helping with the sales it nailed the end of her imperial phase. Funny enough that the cracks started to appear during Alejandro. I would’ve went with Scheisse, but at that point in time radio was a big factor. As much as we the fans love it the label wasn’t probably sure that it’ll be radio-friendly. They might’ve thought that it was too convoluted and that you have to be into Gaga to get it. Weirdly enough, my gp friends liked it from the get go so it was a missed opportunity. It was really fun to be a fan that time, but I guess with what Gaga was at that time and the hype, there’s no other way but down. This! Agree very much with you! I'll WRECK U right Up...G.U.Y.!!!🌋💥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, Massive Monster said: I do agree that Judas sounds like a classic Gaga track but (in my opinion) it's a pale and cheap copy of Bad Romance 1 hour ago, Ricardo said: if they wanted the Red One sound I still don't understand how they didn't release Scheisse which is BY FAR superior Delete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Claws 18,665 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 minute ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said: Delete They're right tho Scheiße > Judas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Just now, Animal Claws said: They're right tho Scheiße > Judas *Wrong, but its alright. Not many can acquire the great taste Judas stans have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Claws 18,665 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Just now, KatieJudasGaga4 said: *Wrong, but its alright. Not many can acquire the great taste Judas stans have But i love Judas wdym Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,300 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, AlexanderMagno said: The fans' reaction is never a factor in Gaga's career choices. Didn't she switch the 2nd single to Million Reasons and DWUW because of the stronger reception those songs received from fans??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,300 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Rocket Number 9 said: also for completely ruining any chance the subsequent singles had to go #1. It is without a doubt her worst single. If Judas wasn't released, TEOG could've been #1. Also, as far as I remember, Gaga actually Scheiße as a single but her label cut that short. So yeah. I think TEOG not going #1 was just bad luck and if anything had more to do with the weak MV (back when mv really helped with a song's popularity), than with Judas being released before it. I also don't remember her performing the song much in America. Had it been the 2nd single it probably would have gone #1 cause it was riding off of BTW but in that case it is the order of the singles that are at fault, not Judas itself imo. I would have loved scheibe as a single but for all we know she could have faced just as much backlash from that song as with Judas. I highly doubt radios would play a song called sh*t and Germany would be left shook and not necessarily in a good way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yxcvbnm 839 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Rocket Number 9 said: It is without a doubt her worst single. If... Stupid love, Perfect Illusion, G.U.Y. say hi Judas is perfect. The song,the single cover!!! Iconic! The music video,the costumes,the choreo. Who cares the charts? It was a mini era with Quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebedesign 1,665 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, AnalDelGay said: + a lead single should not be the best song of an album... Agreed! It would set the bar too high for other songs + has to fit the vibe of the album. Can you imagine if Dancin in Circles was the lead of Joanne? I mean I wish It’s not a fedora you **** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAYHEMikey 8,043 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Just now, Trixie Mattel said: Agreed! It would set the bar too high for other songs + has to fit the vibe of the album. Can you imagine if Dancin in Circles was the lead of Joanne? I mean I wish I wanted Hey Girl to be a single, with a beautiful retro like video with sunset and all that mir Come to mama NO DUCT TAPE - NO MISSON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 5 hours ago, ChrisC said: Didn't she switch the 2nd single to Million Reasons and DWUW because of the stronger reception those songs received from fans??? No. unless you call commercial success to her fans’ reaction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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