HausOfG 1,560 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, PEZ said: (jumped from the second page to last page to post this) It doesn't bother me at all, but I think people who do mind it would mind it less if she gave more specific and concrete examples of kind actions. -- "Ask people their pronouns and respect their pronouns" = something specific and actionable, thus one of her good examples -- "Ask people who look sad if they need support" = same as above -- "Be kind" and "Spread kindness" = too vague and broad If she and the BTWF made something like... a 30-day calendar with a different 'kindness action' to try and accomplish each day (like "Day 5: Give someone a compliment" or whatever) it would feel like a plan to people who are otherwise not able to read her mind about what kindness means to her, to put into everyday practice. She has literally done this though. Clearly y'all weren't paying attention. Probably too busy talking about her make up "I think it's funny that I'm not allowed to have a sense of humour" - Lady Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, HausOfG said: I completely disagree. I put forward a fair argument every time. Just because you don't like me disagreeing with your opinion doesn't mean I'm overreacting. Multiple people agreed with me as you can see by the reaction. I'm not trolling. As far as I know there isn't a rule on how many people you can respond to. So you have no right to take issue with that And dude, I don't care if you don't interact with me. I'm not here to make friends. I'm good. There is zero correlation between interacting with you and being friends with you. You stating that proves you are getting triggered by people calling out your lack of a mature, level headed discussion. You may not be here to make friends, but you are on an online discussion forum to discuss things with other people. If you'd like people to have constructive conversations with you, you'll be better off moving forward with the understanding that a differing opinion is not necessarily a wrong opinion, otherwise, no one will bother with discussing anything with you, and you'll be hitting the "submit" button and sending a message into the void. And if you want to get technical, we could all sit here and point out the hypocrisy of you coming into a thread, all upset that some people aren't jiving with the "kindness mantra" she has as of late, and telling people to "move on if they don't like it" and calling people "entitled" for having an opinion different than your own. If you believe in her kindness message, I'd recommend incorporating that into how you speak to others. Take care. 🤘 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,822 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, PEZ said: If she and the BTWF made something like... a 30-day calendar with a different 'kindness action' to try and accomplish each day (like "Day 5: Give someone a compliment" or whatever) it would feel like a plan to people who are otherwise not able to read her mind about what kindness means to her, to put into everyday practice. OOH! @Twitter take this to the CC Make it happen 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, HausOfG said: The fck? 🤣 I don't think she expects to stop wars. And she just raised 128 million for healthcare workers and went on various shows to talk about it in depth and was one of the first celebs to encourage people to stay home. How is that not dealing with deeper issues...... Look, at this point, if I'm gonna pull out several arguments and have you react with "the ****??? " and ignore more than half of what I've said, I'm just gonna stop right here The fundraiser is one of the very first thing I've brought up and I've literally said this was the way to go rather than the generic kindness speeches. I think you're entitled to thinking all she does is absolutely perfect and can't have a mature conversation about it if people disagree in the slightest. All I'm gonna say is if you think the "be kind" message is flawless and 100% efficient, check your behaviour and you'll have evidence of the opposite. "Be kind" isn't a one-way road, and following Gaga's every footstep doesn't make you immune to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 58,411 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, HausOfG said: I completely disagree. I put forward a fair argument every time. Just because you don't like me disagreeing with your opinion doesn't mean I'm overreacting. Multiple people agreed with me as you can see by the reaction. I'm not trolling. As far as I know there isn't a rule on how many people you can respond to. So you have no right to take issue with that And dude, I don't care if you don't interact with me. I'm not here to make friends. I'm good. Seeing as you so strongly believe in the be kind message (otherwise why would you be defending it so mercilessly and unnecessarily)... Practice it! Like a poem said by a neydy in red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, PartySick said: OOH! @Twitter take this to the CC Make it happen Gotcha! I actually love this idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 22,247 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, HausOfG said: I never said you or they weren't fans, did i? I just don't understand the complaint and/or criticism on this matter. It seems very pedantic and redundant when she's been saying it from the start of her career and has a foundation to support kindness yet here we are in 2020 and her fans are making threads to complain about it. And some of the fans on here were part of the bully pack that went after and continue to go after Sarah so I wouldn't say there is no "threat". Also, looking at the horrible comments on Gaga's post about cancelling her album or any given comment section about what she wears or her make up I wouldn't say the fandom is exactly innocent either. I understand from your perspective it doesn't make sense that somebody could take issue with her touting the kindness punk thing as part of her promoting her new album after 10 years of speaking on the same subject, especially when it's such a positive message. It's been a constant so why "complain" now? Do you understand how, to another, that message is old and doesn't sound nearly as passionate or inspiring being the central message of her new album after 10 years of saying the same? It's a good message but personally I'm hopeful this will just be part of the stupid love promotion. who knows cuz stupid loves lyrics really aren't about the whole "kindness punk" thing. Chromatica might end up being a concept album about a fake land where "kindness punks" rule the world and to me that's just redundant ....... We already had G.O.A.T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfG 1,560 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Doot said: There is zero correlation between interacting with you and being friends with you. You stating that proves you are getting triggered by people calling out your lack of a mature, level headed discussion. You may not be here to make friends, but you are on an online discussion forum to discuss things with other people. If you'd like people to have constructive conversations with you, you'll be better off moving forward with the understanding that a differing opinion is not necessarily a wrong opinion, otherwise, no one will bother with discussing anything with you, and you'll be hitting the "submit" button and sending a message into the void. And if you want to get technical, we could all sit here and point out the hypocrisy of you coming into a thread, all upset that some people aren't jiving with the "kindness mantra" she has as of late, and telling people to "move on if they don't like it" and calling people "entitled" for having an opinion different than your own. If you believe in her kindness message, I'd recommend incorporating that into how you speak to others. Take care. 🤘 As I said I'm not going to cater to people getting annoyed over a woman who has a kindness foundation asking people to be kind. "I think it's funny that I'm not allowed to have a sense of humour" - Lady Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 no because she's right 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 105,626 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Yes, hate t*rns me on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, HausOfG said: As I said I'm not going to cater to people getting annoyed over a woman who has a kindness foundation asking people to be kind. No one's asking you to cater to them. They are asking that you practice what you appear to be so passionate about and to respect other peoples opinions. as in...be kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicHot 6,444 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I somewhat agree. It comes off as too sometimes. I LOVE HER though, and I'm glad she's using her platform for good especially during a crisis like we're in now. After all, it is a good message. Honestly.... I think she's just trying to keep her image clean, especially after the ASIB praise and tremendous night at the Oscars. And she's probably doing her best to stay away from any form of controversy so she can remain respectable to the GP. She's not the same unapologetic, crazy popstar she was in 2010-2013. (And that's okay! I've loved watching her grow up to become who she is now. ) dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfG 1,560 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Enigma said: Look, at this point, if I'm gonna pull out several arguments and have you react with "the ****??? " and ignore more than half of what I've said, I'm just gonna stop right here The fundraiser is one of the very first thing I've brought up and I've literally said this was the way to go rather than the generic kindness speeches. I think you're entitled to thinking all she does is absolutely perfect and can't have a mature conversation about it if people disagree in the slightest. All I'm gonna say is if you think the "be kind" message is flawless and 100% efficient, check your behaviour and you'll have evidence of the opposite. "Be kind" isn't a one-way road, and following Gaga's every footstep doesn't make you immune to it Actually I've already said it's not possibly to live up to because we are all human. I never said I even adopt it. You're doing a lot of assuming. I have even said it falls on a lot of deaf ears in this fandom.( You're obviously not reading my posts.) But that doesn't mean she should stop saying it. And that's my point. She knows you're not going to all follow it and that you will likely mock it. She doesn't care. If it even reaches one person then that's worth it. "I think it's funny that I'm not allowed to have a sense of humour" - Lady Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfG 1,560 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Doot said: No one's asking you to cater to them. They are asking that you practice what you appear to be so passionate about and to respect other peoples opinions. as in...be kind. Ahhh, but that's it. I'm not passionate about "be kind". I'm passionate about her right to say it as she has been since the start of her career. If she had suddenly adopted it in the last year I'd understand why it would baffle some of you. But this is her. "I think it's funny that I'm not allowed to have a sense of humour" - Lady Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY 6,270 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, HausOfG said: And we can disagree with them. You can't put an opinion on a public forum and not expect to have people disagree with you. That's mental. There’s a difference between disagreeing and being passively rude in all of your comments which is the antithesis of what you’re defending Gaga for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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