Anyone else turned off by the kindness vibe?

[petty 9,412]

Just now, Kindness Hooker said:

Do u dirty? I WOULD NEVER

Wait why am I just noticing your username is KINDNESS Hooker omfg  I think I was too focused on ur cute ass pic

you might be the ops 

[Kindness Hooker 7]

3 minutes ago, PETTY said:

Wait why am I just noticing your username is KINDNESS Hooker omfg  I think I was too focused on ur cute ass pic

you might be the ops 

The ops? I would never.

[PartySick 159,822]

30 minutes ago, PETTY said:

my issue is with how it's practiced on this forum. the kindness monsters on this forum make me cringe. you can't even critique the color of her hair without some dusty quoting u trying to "correct" u on kindness. 

Idk, there's no reason a fan can't say they dislike something she's doing or one of her looks as long as they aren't hateful about it.

I wish people would see her as a human more often. Goes for both sides of that debate. There's no reason to tear someone down for petty reasons and there's no reason to act like her every word is gospel and she poops solid gold.

She's just a person, same as us. A generous, loving, and inspiring person for what she's done but still just a person.

I don't even really know what I'm getting at here  just, when I think of Gaga, I think of her as you'd think of a friend. You like them, they're really nice and cool, but you also know they're ready to pull some bitch's hair out if they get crossed

[petty 9,412]

1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Idk, there's no reason a fan can't say they dislike something she's doing or one of her looks as long as they aren't hateful about it.

I wish people would see her as a human more often. Goes for both sides of that debate. There's no reason to tear someone down for petty reasons and there's no reason to act like her every word is gospel and she poops solid gold.

She's just a person, same as us. A generous, loving, and inspiring person for what she's done but still just a person.

I don't even really know what I'm getting at here  just, when I think of Gaga, I think of her as you'd think of a friend. You like them, they're really nice and cool, but you also know they're ready to pull some bitch's hair out if they get crossed

Well said 

[PartySick 159,822]

10 minutes ago, Franch Toast said:

Oh, I agree with you. I'm not annoyed by it, either. I was just making a joke based off your comment. I think some of her fans really do need to hear this message regularly though, especially considering how some people bully Sarah and even Gaga herself. 

One of these days I hope she puts on the Junkyard Scavenger outfit and drags the f*ck out of her stans

Kindness Punks who?

[BABYL0N 3,157]

I love the message it‘s so powerful yet so simple especially with the tribes concept I hope she will continue with it, it’s the main reason I personally don‘t want her to release Chromatica now, there is a big ass concept and message behind it 

[HausOfG 1,560]

26 minutes ago, Doot said:

Oh my God. 

This thread has devolved as normal with people expressing thoughts that they are allowed and entitled to feel, and then all the people who want to claim they are "better fans" because they don't critique Gaga and follow her every word come in and start quoting every comment which doesn't kiss the ground Gaga walks on. 

Just stop. 

Lady Gaga is a public figure and a commerical artist, and that means she is allowed to be critiqued and have people discuss their thoughts in her on her own fan forum. 

If someone on here wants to state that they love her kindness message as of late, that's fine. 

If someone on here wants to state that think her delivery of the kindness message as of late reads as cheesy and forced, that's fine. 

If you can't handle another person not having the same opinion as you, you shouldn't be on an online forum. 

 

And we can disagree with them. You can't put an opinion on a public forum and not expect to have people disagree with you. That's mental. 

[dynamite 58,414]

Just now, HausOfG said:

And we can disagree with them. You can't put an opinion on a public forum and not expect to have people disagree with you. That's mental. 

Disagreements are expected and forums would be pointless without them, but it's more about the way some people disagree with things. The unnecessary defensiveness, sarcasm and rude retorts to what are largely regular opinions. Not sugar coated, but normal. I haven't seen any comment which is *that* bad and deserving of the above on this thread, and yet a lot of opinions have received it.

[Doot 2]

1 minute ago, HausOfG said:

And we can disagree with them. You can't put an opinion on a public forum and not expect to have people disagree with you. That's mental. 

No, but what you have done in this thread is quoted each person that didn't share your opinion, and proceeded to have over the top meltdowns and point the finger at all of these people as being what is wrong with the fanbase. 

I'm not trying to offend you, but by doing what I just mentioned, causes unnecessary drama. If you are going to get mad and freak out when someone doesn't share the same opinion as you, people will be less inclined to interact with you in general. That applies to anyone. 

[yxi 4,999]

Kindness is important in life but it makes her very uncool, the constant preaching, she sounds like a broken record.

[Enigma 7,182]

46 minutes ago, HausOfG said:

You're talking about a woman who has told us multiple times about being bullied and raped resulting in severe PTSD and mental health issues. I don't know how you can say she doesn't back it up with substance. 

 

Yikes

I'm saying she has all those experiences to back up her speeches, so I would expect more substance from them considering she HAS given us substance in the past. "Be kind!" is not gonna put and end to bullying, rape and war. It's a very superficial message.

She started her career advocating for other "freaks" or monsters, then she literally provoked a gay rights wave with BTW. With ARTPOP she centered her message towards art, which was great because she's not expected to be all about social justice all the time. During Joanne and ASIB it was more about herself and her family, which once again, is ok because she's an artist and does whatever she wants.

What I think is a bit redundant is the way she started going back to advocating all of a sudden, but in a more superficial way than before. When you set the standards so high it's just a bit weird to do the same thing again but with less substance.

Let's be real, the Stupid Love MV message is basic (PLEASE don't take this as hate and start going off rails, many basic things are enjoyable still). It basically is "There is war. Kindness = no more war". It's cute for an intentionally cheesy MV, but it doesn't translate as well when you take that message and apply it to real life. 

"We need kindness to have peace" is stating the obvious. It's like saying "We need food to survive". Repeating it over and over won't feed the children in Africa, and Gaga's speeches, while cute and well intentioned, won't fix war, or make hateful people go kind, or anything really. It's just some soup for the soul. It's cute and creates good vibes, but after a while the messages dries out and I think it has dragged on for long enough and she can start tackling deeper things.

[HausOfG 1,560]

Just now, Doot said:

No, but what you have done in this thread is quoted each person that didn't share your opinion, and proceeded to have over the top meltdowns and point the finger at all of these people as being what is wrong with the fanbase. 

I'm not trying to offend you, but by doing what I just mentioned, causes unnecessary drama. If you are going to get mad and freak out when someone doesn't share the same opinion as you, people will be less inclined to interact with you in general. That applies to anyone. 

I completely disagree. I put forward a fair argument every time. Just because you don't like me disagreeing with your opinion doesn't mean I'm overreacting. Multiple people agreed with me as you can see by the reaction. I'm not trolling. As far as I know there isn't a rule on how many people you can respond to. So you have no right to take issue with that 

And dude, I don't care if you don't interact with me. I'm not here to make friends. I'm good. 

[PEZ 6,227]

(jumped from the second page to last page to post this)

It doesn't bother me at all, but I think people who do mind it would mind it less if she gave more specific and concrete examples of kind actions.

-- "Ask people their pronouns and respect their pronouns" = something specific and actionable, thus one of her good examples

-- "Ask people who look sad if they need support" = same as above

-- "Be kind" and "Spread kindness" = too vague and broad

If she and the BTWF made something like... a 30-day calendar with a different 'kindness action' to try and accomplish each day (like "Day 5: Give someone a compliment" or whatever) it would feel like a plan to people who are otherwise not able to read her mind about what kindness means to her, to put into everyday practice.

[Enigma 7,182]

1 minute ago, HausOfG said:

I completely disagree. I put forward a fair argument every time. Just because you don't like me disagreeing with your opinion doesn't mean I'm overreacting. Multiple people agreed with me as you can see by the reaction. I'm not trolling. As far as I know there isn't a rule on how many people you can respond to. So you have no right to take issue with that 

And dude, I don't care if you don't interact with me. I'm not here to make friends. I'm good. 

All I'm gonna say is you made a case about people "not being kind" and "not listening to her message" and were the one to start being passive agressive.

You called us haters for having constructive criticism to give about her delivery

And now you're being defensive and saying you're "not here to make friends"

No one here is feeling hate or trying to fight. The agressivity you're perceiving is in your head

[HausOfG 1,560]

1 minute ago, Enigma said:

I'm saying she has all those experiences to back up her speeches, so I would expect more substance from them considering she HAS given us substance in the past. "Be kind!" is not gonna put and end to bullying, rape and war. It's a very superficial message.

She started her career advocating for other "freaks" or monsters, then she literally provoked a gay rights wave with BTW. With ARTPOP she centered her message towards art, which was great because she's not expected to be all about social justice all the time. During Joanne and ASIB it was more about herself and her family, which once again, is ok because she's an artist and does whatever she wants.

What I think is a bit redundant is the way she started going back to advocating all of a sudden, but in a more superficial way than before. When you set the standards so high it's just a bit weird to do the same thing again but with less substance.

Let's be real, the Stupid Love MV message is basic (PLEASE don't take this as hate and start going off rails, many basic things are enjoyable still). It basically is "There is war. Kindness = no more war". It's cute for an intentionally cheesy MV, but it doesn't translate as well when you take that message and apply it to real life. 

"We need kindness to have peace" is stating the obvious. It's like saying "We need food to survive". Repeating it over and over won't feed the children in Africa, and Gaga's speeches, while cute and well intentioned, won't fix war, or make hateful people go kind, or anything really. It's just some soup for the soul. It's cute and creates good vibes, but after a while the messages dries out and I think it has dragged on for long enough and she can start tackling deeper things.

The fck? 🤣 I don't think she expects to stop wars. 

And she just raised 128 million for healthcare workers and went on various shows to talk about it in depth and was one of the first celebs to encourage people to stay home. How is that not dealing with deeper issues......