IndyMelissa 297 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Did you watch her interview where she says she realizes her quarantine is much different than others? That she is safe and has access to food, etc...and that she knows many people are struggling to pay for meals for their kids? I LIVE FOR THE APPLAUSE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,578 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, Born Brave said: You realize this post screams “entitlement” right? You say she’s suffered, but that’s such crap. Do not try and guilt those of us that are disappointment with this garbage. Maybe she’s struggled mentally, but she literally has someone do her f’ng make up with her own f’ng makeup brand and cook her meals for her each day next to her own private studio. Meanwhile, some of us literally lost everything within the last few weeks while she’s scripting planned phone calls with Tim Cook for donations that are going to be reimbursed in tax breaks next year. They aren’t sacrificing. We are. Do you really want to get into a discussion of entitlement rn? Feeling disappointed is alright, but do NOT minimize someone else's pain. I understand you use those examples in order to show how she has money, but money does not fix every single issue you face. And it doesn't make you immune to consequences of the virus. For all you know she was just as excited as us to perform and make appearances. It's probably stressful that she had to cancel all that and continues to have to cancel things. She still has personal issues she has to deal with, and at some point being stuck in your house can be detrimental to your health, regardless of how big it is. The fact that you're dismissing her efforts to contribute to society in this way is gross. I don't expect you to raise $90 million but let's not belittle someone else who does. Even if these companies use these donations for tax breaks next year, they still have to report these things in their quarterly earnings as expenditures, and these amounts sure can alert investors. People like you continue to fail to see Gaga as a person. Millionaires as people. Gaga has not just sat around her house this entire time, and has meaningfully contributed to society by leveraging her resources in order to help healthcare workers. She's been down to earth about it and acknowledged healthcare workers are currently sleeping in their cars to help people. I don't know you or what you contributed to aiding people in this Pandemic, nor do I know what you've sacrificed. But at the very least don't criticize others who have made positive changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindness Hooker 7 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 The same people who act entitled are the first to complain. "WhY DoEsnT sHE gO LiVe oN iG LiKE Dua" you vultures should be thankful she interacts at all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,578 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, Doot said: Honestly, I know I fall victim to dragging them every now and then, but if you notice users acting entitled, spoiled and bratty, especially repeat offenders, just put them on your ignore list and move on. When you pay any attention to these people, you give them the motivation to keep whining. Just put em on ignore and move on with your day. As much as I get tempted sometimes, I feel like it means they have power over me. I understand the same could be said if I let them affect my emotions. Also, I never know if one day somebody might have a point I need to consider. And lastly, I feel like it takes away from the experience on the forum. I wouldn't be seeing the same things other users are, and it would feel like I'm missing out. I know it's kinda weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIKELADYAGAGA 4,080 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, jesse g said: but do you think that postponing an album without the new release date already set is a step a artist her caliber should do? this is the only think that upsets me about the postponing. \ yeah but why set a release date that could end up getting pushed again? we have no idea if things will be different two months from now. Gaga wants to release this when she can perform it with her fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIKELADYAGAGA 4,080 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, PopFanatic said: She announced Chromatica on March 2nd and said it was coming out 4/10. By the time of the announcement (on March 2nd), Coronavirus was already a decent-sized issue. So it's not like she announced it far in advance and then changed her mind when she saw what was happening. She knew what was happening already and still chose to announce it and get everyone's hopes up. So no, this isn't a result of us "creating nonexistent release dates and expectations" this is a result of her announcing an album's release date - in the middle of a pandemic - and then going back on that three weeks later. Lady Gaga has always spoke about wanting to heal people with her music and help them...and then she chooses to not release an album that would lift up spirits when we actually need it the most? Yeah, I'm not buying it. This was a calculated move, IMO, because they wouldn't have been able to get the coverage they wanted to and thus lower sales. It probably wasn't even Gaga's fault, TBH, but her labels, but it was a money based decision - not a benevolent one. Because "this isn't the proper time to release a happy album" is complete bullcrap. There was no pandemic in the U.S. when she announced the album. Next. Lady Gaga doesn't create "music". She creates experiences. Her album launch is an experience that heals fans. The music videos. The performances. The deep dives into her process and interviews. That literally can't happen right now. Releasing a dance album called "Chromatica" while millions are suffering is not the way to go. Trying to get somebody to laugh and dance while mourning isn't noble. It's tone deaf. You can't fix people with dance music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2School4Cool 6,455 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Honestly to me it comes down to basic respect. Gaga has treated her fans with nothing but love, and that has never once wavered. It makes me so upset to see so many fans be so hateful towards her, her team, etc. I do want to point out that obviously this is a minority of the fanbase. When it comes to social media there can be so much love but the hate stands out and gets attention and gets more visibility unfortunately. I wish it wasn’t that way but unfortunately it is. I also want to add that expressing an opinion isn’t the same as spreading hate. Saying you’re not a fan of something is totally fine, but like I originally stated, it comes back down to respect. We can discuss our opinions respectfully, but we see this respectful discussion way less than we see name calling, hateful comments, and honestly just really rude statements. I hope Gaga knows that most of her fans understand everything she’s doing right now, most of her fans are so beyond proud of her for the amazing work she is doing. She’s truly a hero to so many, she doesn’t need to do half of what she’s doing to raise money but she is and that’s remarkable. It’s that spirit that makes me love her so much. I live by kindness, and I know Gaga does too, and I feel proud to say I look up to such an inspiring woman who has always promoted kindness since day one, she’s a role model and an inspiration. Of course I care about the music, of course I can’t wait to dance to Chromatica, but I know that it’ll come when it’s time to come. Until then, let’s just be kind. Let’s stop the constant hate towards Sarah, Richy, etc. Let’s respect the fact that there are some really pressing issues that Gaga is doing everything in her power to help with. And also, let’s understand that Gaga wants this album era and experience to be amazing, and she wants to celebrate with us, which isn’t possible right now. Kindness is always the answer. See The Best In Everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopFanatic 48 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, LIKELADYAGAGA said: There was no pandemic in the U.S. when she announced the album. Next. Lady Gaga doesn't create "music". She creates experiences. Her album launch is an experience that heals fans. The music videos. The performances. The deep dives into her process and interviews. That literally can't happen right now. Releasing a dance album called "Chromatica" while millions are suffering is not the way to go. Trying to get somebody to laugh and dance while mourning isn't noble. It's tone deaf. You can't fix people with dance music. 1. It wasn't officially labeled a pandemic, no. But there were still people dying in the US and world. So... 2. I don't even know how to respond to that lol. 3. You can feel like that all you want and you're justified in feeling that way, but I disagree. Now is the perfect time for music to make people feel happy. This just in: millions of people are ALWAYS suffering or is your scope of the world limited to the US and your backyard? When Gaga released The Fame Monster, Swine Flu was happening and millions were sick and thousands died. And guess what? She released the album. Name a year and I'll give you something bad that happened. There is rarely a time in the world if ever that everything is rainbows and sunshine. By your logic, nobody should ever laugh or dance if something bad is happening somewhere else >.> Like as someone who suffers from Depression/Anxiety, listening to music is one of the few things that takes my mind off of bad things. And I know many people who feel the same. I don't consider it "tone deaf" to use an artform as an escape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 43,640 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Also, if the amount of music an artist releases is bothering you, find a hobby or something. "****ing rat" - @Dynamite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 110,701 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Oh wow, just about the nth thread about the same opinions that I saw in the past two weeks trying to antagonize fans who really wish fir the music. Which is kind of ironic, trying to shut people down by not shutting up themselves. Wow. A concept! So groundbreaking! (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ my friend Malamar (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonkey 639 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Yeah she has changed but it was inevitable, she got bigger so of course she would be more distant that what happens. I mean her M&Gs used to be dirt cheap like $100 I think? And she would give you all the time and day but now of course things will be different when there are more fans and everything is bigger. I followed her since day 1 and to see her get to this point has been a fun ride. I just care about the music, I can care if she doesn’t lick my foot, I don’t need validation from a celebrity nor do I need to live my life through them which some here do since they are so adamant on Gaga being the best at everything just so they can claim they stan the best and it makes them feel better to be associated with something great. which is stupid. At end of the day, we are here for the music and it should be just that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonkey 639 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, RAMROD said: Oh wow, just about the nth thread about the same opinions that I saw in the past two weeks trying to antagonize fans who really wish fir the music. Which is kind of ironic, trying to shut people down by not shutting up themselves. Wow. A concept! So groundbreaking! It’s always the same people that go “stop giving Gaga a hard time, don’t you know she’s bleeding to death right now?” I feel there’s no middle ground in this forum, either people are total trolls or stans with rose colored glasses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,479 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Gaga could release the album at anytime, and we’d have it. Her delay was smart, not solely cause it would sell more (that doesn’t matter too much in the grand scheme of things at all), but because a lot of people like you and I who work in the industry in a 9-5 job rely on this album release and the work it’ll provide for them to help put food on their table. Gaga is as big as they come, and for an artist of that magnitude, there are a lot of moving parts in place to ensure things happen properly. If she released in this pandemic, she’d be hindering potential job opportunities for tons of people. If you guys look at it from this perspective, she’s not being a greedy bitch (which is an unfortunate narrative I’ve seen on Twitter). Can we also not pretend like the second we get Chromatica, we’re not gonna have 10000s of people asking for more from her? Like, I’ve been in this fan base for long enough to understand how unrealistically demanding it can be. I’m a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWICE on hatius 4,746 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, PopFanatic said: 3. You can feel like that all you want and you're justified in feeling that way, but I disagree. Now is the perfect time for music to make people feel happy. This just in: millions of people are ALWAYS suffering or is your scope of the world limited to the US and your backyard? When Gaga released The Fame Monster, Swine Flu was happening and millions were sick and thousands died. And guess what? She released the album. Name a year and I'll give you something bad that happened. There is rarely a time in the world if ever that everything is rainbows and sunshine. By your logic, nobody should ever laugh or dance if something bad is happening somewhere else >.> Here’s my 2 cent on your opinion: 1) Those who we should focus on right now are the heoroes who are at the front line, not us. Is Chromatica going to help them ? Barely. Is 90M+ donation going to help them. Yes. 2) But why should Gaga is the one who sacrifice her music to help front line heroes ? Because she has more power than most pop stars right now. Her voice matters. If she’s not the one, who will do what’s she doing. We should be glad Gaga has the honor to do what she’s doing right now. 3) Can’t she just release an album and call it a day then move on with COVID-aid ? No, Gaga is a just human who is bound to selfishly want to see her art recognized. Expecting her to give up her art to fail and be saint is an unrealistic thing. Not to mention, there are people connecting to her projects, and there’s a literal corporate behind her. She has the last word whether she can give up on projects. 4) There are artists who still release music in this pandemic. I’m sorry you are dealing with depression and anxiety but everyone has the role to play in this pandemic. We are asking too much at the wrong person. 5) People hate her repeating “kindness” message but it’s true. If each one of us chooses to do something differently to make things better then we should. May be we should switch focus to front line heroes and sympathize with Gaga’s decision. Maybe we should actively find joy in different things instead of relying on her music solely. xoxo Please ignore the spelling in username. I am a Beyonce stan afterall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, PopFanatic said: Like as someone who suffers from Depression/Anxiety, listening to music is one of the few things that takes my mind off of bad things. And I know many people who feel the same. I don't consider it "tone deaf" to use an artform as an escape. But if music is one of the few things that takes your mind off of what's going on, why not explore new artists? You'll get to listen to something new and you might like it. You never know, you might find an artist you'll be interested in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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