Economy 52,844 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Florin said: It's common sense that in a way or another the restrictions must slow down. Social distancing measures will probably be in place for the next 6 - 18 months, since this wont disappear without a vaccine. That's the line of reasoning they are using in Sweden... That restrictions and social distancing is necessary but it must be established at a level that is sustainable and manageable in society for the longer term and resorting to full lockdowns only during Extreme spikes I don't disagree with them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Economy said: That's the line of reasoning they are using in Sweden... That restrictions and social distancing is necessary but it must be established at a level that is sustainable and manageable in society for the longer term and resorting to full lockdowns only during Extreme spikes I don't disagree with them I also agree with them and even envy them that they were able to take more relaxed measures. However, I understand that the extreme measures were necessary in some places. As you know, I cant accept them without limitations of time. Last week, I've said one month. Now I accept two. Believe me. I dont like that Ive made that change, but it seems that a good part of the population need this to feel safer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, mauvais said: Spain is only reopening nonessential factories and construction sites but I don't think people truly understand our global economy has been destroyed. Bosses can force their employees back to work, and workers will undoubtedly enjoy having an income again, but who will buy a car or build a new house in a pandemic? It's absurd! Ppl may not buy much of that stuff during a pandemic but if ppl stay off work for too long demand longer term will only collapse even further and have the downturn last MUCH longer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Florin said: I also agree with them and even envy them that they were able to take more relaxed measures. However, I understand that the extreme measures were necessary in some places. As you know, I cant accept them without limitations of time. Last week, I've said one month. Now I accept two. Believe me. I dont like that Ive made that change, but it seems that a good part of the population need this to feel safer. Yeah... There are spikes where the only way to deal with it are with full lockdowns. I'm not saying they don't have their place as a tool in the fight I'm just saying they can't be what we resort to for an entire year until a vaccine. There needs to be a plan with less severe shutdowns when the number of cases is less severe Italy and Spain were caught off guard Sweden got its first cases when the virus was already well known and in the media and people understood the importance of being careful So just because things got out of control in the first Nations to be hit hard, that doesn't prove that less extreme measures like Sweden can't work But I guess we will see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMF 3,649 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Can’t believe they are talking about relaxing restrictions when the death toll is still so high.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taide 5,789 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, ShayCristoforo said: Well won't that make it... increase? 1 hour ago, Melissa Vandella said: It's too early, and 517 daily deaths are still a HUGE number, WTF 1 hour ago, Stef666 said: They shouldn't relax anything until the daily death toll is 0. Just say that you want, not only Spain's / EU's, but the whole worlds economy to crash causing hundreds of millions of people going through poorness and starvation. Lockdowns aren't sustainable for a long period of time. Spain has been closed totally for the past few weeks, which already has effects that will last for decades. It's reasonable to open them slowly unless you want thousands of people dead by other reasons thanks to the shutdown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Cipriani 1,668 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Taide said: Just say that you want, not only Spain's / EU's, but the whole worlds economy to crash I think it's about time to rethink the world's economy, and to find a new economic model. Capitalism is not perfect, and sooner or later our world would have collapsed anyway, covid19 has only accelerated the times. To cope with this crisis, and also for the future, I think the best solution would be to think of an amount of money to be given monthly to every citizen of the world, regardless of their job. This would also eliminate poverty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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